Author talk:James Burnley

The following work has been allocated as an attributed work Author:James Burnley (1838-1919)

• History Of Wool And Wool-Combing (1891)^[1]

(conclusion) confirmed by reference to Who's Who for James Burnley as being part of his bibliography

dates of birth amended as proposed, no dates in WsW, evidence provided accepted. To be amended at Authorandbookinfo.

Similarly this work has been attributed

• Biskra and the desert: a record of a tour in Algeria in the year 1885 ([1906?])^[2]

It is my supposition that the above two works are by a different James BURNLEY, b.c1829,

(conclusion) Second book only is be attributed to James Burnley (1829-1907)

Evidence James b.1838/42

• James Burnley, Occupation: Solicitors Clerk; Unmarried

Birth: abt 1841 - Shipley, Yorkshire, England; Residence: 1861 - Holborn St Andrew, Middlesex, England^[3]

• James Burnley, Occupation: Solicitors Clerk; Spouse: Francis C

Birth: abt 1841 - Shipley, Yorkshire, England; Residence: 1871 - Bowling, Yorkshire, England^[4]

• The author of James of 1842-1919 is Frances Charlotte (Frankleton)^[5]

• Name: James Burnley, Occupation: Author; Spouse: Frances C

Birth: abt 1839 - Shipley, Yorkshire, England; Residence: 1901 - Kew, Surrey, England^[6]

• The Story Of British Trade has online version and the author page states of Gray's Inns Chambers concurring fact, and most of the other books attributed.

• Death of James Burnley 1919 aged 82 => b.^[7]

Evidence James b.1829

• In Biskra and the desert in the first few pages there are photos of James and his wife Maria taken in 1883. Photos show middle aged couple, 40+ definitely, possibly 50+.^[2]

• James Burnley; Occupation: Justice of the Peace for the Borough of Bradford, Machine Wool Coomber & Woollen Merchant; Spouse: Mary

Birth: abt 1829 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England; Residence: 1891 - Bramhope, Bramhope, Yorkshire, England^[8]

• James Burnley, Occupation: Commission Wool Comber; Spouse: Mary

Birth: abt 1829 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England; Residence: 1891 - Bramhope, Bramhope, Yorkshire, England^[6]

• Death of James Burnley 1907 aged 78^[9]

References

1. New General Catalog of Old Books and Authors, names starting with Bus - Buz
2. Burnley, James, 1842-1919
3. 1861 England census
4. 1871 England census
5. FreeBMD marriage search
6. 1901 England census
7. Death of James Burnley 1919 aged 82
8. 1891 England census
9. Death of James Burnley 1907 aged 78

Response

As one who has difficulties suffering fools gladly, there is a need to distinguish between the kind of nagging that defines fools and the kind that defines scholars.

Not sure where you are angling. I will just smile politely.

I'm inclined to agree with you about the Biskra book, but not about the wool book. That Burnley (1829) was a wool-comber is not determinative for me. Burnley (1842) was also a Yorkshireman, and would have probably also had an interest in the wool industry. This writing is consistent with some of the other work that he wrote about industrial subjects.

The Biskra book does not appear to be the work of a person with the considerable publishing experience of Burnley-42. With his extensive connections he certainly would not have needed to have the book privately printed. The portrait of his wife "Maria" is not consistent with Burnley-42's wife being Frances. The inscription on the half-title page of the archives.org copy shows that the writer was in Bramhope less than a year before his death. I can't see that Burnley-42 would too inclined to go from London to Yorkshire to autograph a second-rate book, unless there was some kind of family gathering during the Christmas season. Contradicting received wisdom may require a little more effort. Eclecticology (talk) 20:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Discussion here and external: Accepted. Attributions defined 2 authors, 1 book each. billinghurst (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The Biskra book is definitely NOT written by the author James Burnley 1838-1919, but by James Burnley 1829-1907 the mill owner as per OBIT in Bradford Observer extracted below: Bradford Weekly Telegraph - Friday 06 September 1907 DEATH OF MR. JAMES BURNLEY. FROM MILL WORKER TO LARGE EMPLOYER. The death took place at his residence, Bramhope Hall, on Saturday morning of Mr. James Burnley. head of the firm of Holden, Burnley and Co., woolcombers, Clumberfand Works, Girlingion, and a magistrate of the city. He was born in January, 1829, and was therefore in hie 79th sear. Mr. Burnley's health began to give way some three weeks ago, and although confined to his room it was thought, considering his physical activity and general vigour— for he looked much younger than he really was—that his illness was only of a temporary character. But later at was seen that his condition was more serious than was at first realised, and nearly a week ago symptoms developed which left little hope of his recovery. Death was duo to hemorrhage on the brain. When the news of Mr. Burnley's death was received at the Town Hall the Mayor gave instructions for the tolling of the bell, and the flags over the building were hoisted at half mast. The late Mr. James Burnley was a native of Bradford. and was born in Hind Street, where his sister lived until recently. His early years wore spent in a humble walk of life, and be earned his living as a factory worker. Later he became associated with the late Mr. Johnathan Holden, and for years he resided at Rheims in France. Subsequently these two capable men of business established the flourishing woolcombing concern carried on at Cumberland Works. Gorlington.

Mr. Jonathan Holden. it may be remembered, acquired a tract of land from the French, Government in Algeria, and by the boring of , artesian wells he transformed the country from a desert into a fertile and beautiful spot, with its vineyards olive yards, and palm groves, and Flourishing villages and towns. Some few years ago Mr. Burnley and his wife paid a visit to Biskra. a city which is the outcome of that Algerian speculation, and on his return be published an interesting account of what he saw. The book was prepared with the help of Mr. C. A. Federer, Hallfield  Road, Bradford,. an intimate friend, and about a hundred copies were printed for private circulation amongst friends.