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I?ECOR/)S OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION 2Z Wednesday MADISON dugvat in proportion. and are at the same time to have their exports & their slaves exempt from all contributions for the public service. Let it not be said that direct taxation is to be pro- portioned to representation. It is idle to suppose that the Genl Govt. can stretch its hand directly into the pockets of the people scattered over so vast a Country. They can only do it through the medium of exports imports & excises. For what then are all these sacrifices to be made? He would sooner submit himself to a tax for paying for all the Negroes in the U. States. than saddle posterity with such a Constitution. Mr. Dayton zded. the motion. He did it he said that his sentiments on the subject might appear whatever might be the fate of the amendment. Mr. Sherman. did not regard the admission of the Negroes into the ratio of representation, as liable to such insuperable objections. It was the freemen of the Southn. States who were in fact to be represented according to the taxes paid by them, and the Negroes are only included in the Estimate of the taxes. This was his idea of the matter. Mr Pinkney, considered the fisheries & the Western fron- tier as more burdensome to the U.S. than the slaves- He thought this could be demonstrated if the occasion were a proper one. Mr Wilson. thought the motion premature-- An agree- ment to the clause would be no bar to the object of it. Question On Motion to insert "free" before "inhabitants." N. H- no. Mas. no. Ct. no. N. J. ay. Pa. no. Del. no. Md. no. Va. no. N. C. no. S.C. no. Geo. no. [Ayes- I; noes- lo.] On the suggestion of Mr. Dickenson (the words>, "provided that each State shall have one representative at least."-- were added nero. con. Art. IV. sect. 4. as amended was Agreed to nero. con. Art. IV. sect. 5. taken up ,8 ?3 Article IV, Sect. 5. "All bills for raising or appropriating money, and for fixing the salaries of the officers of the Government, shall originate in the House of Representatives, and shall not be altered or amended by the Senate. No money shall be drawn from the public Treasury, but in pursuance of appropriations that shall originate in the House of Representatives."