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RECORDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION 319 Friday MADISON /lugust l 7 Mr. Elseworth. there is a material difference between the cases of making war, and making peace. It shd. be more easy to get out of war? than into it. War also is a simple and overt declaration. peace attended with intricate & secret. negociations. Mr. Mason was agst giving the power of war to the Execu- tive? because not {safely) to be trusted with it; or to the Senate, because not so constructed as to be entitled to it. He was for clogging rather than facilitating war; but for facilitating peace. He preferred "declare" to "make". On the Motion to insert declare ? in place of Make, (it was agreed to.) ' N. I-t. no. Mas. abst. Cont. no.* Pa a�. Del. ay. Md. a�. Va. a�. N. C. a�. S.C. a 7. Geo-ay. [Ayes--7; noes--z; absent- I.] Mr. Pinkne7's motion to strike out whole clause, disagd. to without call of States. Mr Butler moved to give the Legislature power of peace, as they were to have that of war. Mr Gerry 2ds. him. 8 Senators may possibly exercise the power if vested in that body? and ?4 if all should be present; and may consequently give up part of the U. States. The Senate are more liable to be corrupted by an Enemy than the whole Legislature. On the motion for adding "and peace" after "war" N.H. no. Mas. no. Ct. no. Pa. no. Del. no. Md. no. Va. no. N. C. (no) �C no. Geo. no. [Ayes- o; noes- IO.] Adjourned

  • On 'the remark by Mr. King that "make" war might be understood to

"conduct" it which was an Executive function, Mr. Elseworth gave up hia objec- tion {and the vote of Cont was changed to--ay.) as Madison originally left a blank after "N. C." The Journal shows that the question was repeated.