Talk:Three Books of Occult Philosophy

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Original edition Published 1651
Source Esoteric Archives, MSU
Contributor(s) CSN, Lusanaherandraton
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Separate information about Fourth Book here

Contents

[edit] Chapter Status

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Book II. Celestial Magic 50%.svg Added images
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[edit] Headers and Footers from Electronic Version

This electronic edition was based on the London 1651 Moule edition
found in the British Library:

  Title: Three Books of Occult Philosophy ... Translated ... by J. F. [i.e. John French.] 
  Main heading: AGRIPPA. Henricus Cornelius 
  Additional headings: F.. J. 
  Additional headings: FRENCH. John. M.D. 
  Publication details: pp. 583. R. W. for Gregory Moule: London, 1651. 4o. 
  Shelfmark: 1471.g.5. 
  Shelfmark: E.617. 
  Shelfmark: 232.l.7.(1) 

Graphics were supplied from 1533 Latin edition:
  Title:      De occulta philosophia libri tres
  Authors:    Agrippa von Nettesheim, Heinrich Cornelius, 1486?-1535.
  Published:  [S.l. : s.n., 1533]

Title: Three books of occult philosophy [microform] /
  written by Henry Cornelius Agrippa of Nettesheim ... ;
  translated out of the Latin into the English tongue by J.F.
Library: MNCAT U of M Twin Cities
Authors: Agrippa von Nettesheim, Heinrich Cornelius, 1486?-1535.
Uniform Title: De occulta philosophia. English
Published: London : Printed by R.W. for Gregory Moule ..., 1651.
Description: [28], 583, [12] p. : ill., port.
Series: Early English books, 1641-1700 ;
Subjects: Occultism. -- mn
Contributors: French, John, 1616-1657.
Notes: The translator is probably John French. Cf. DNB. 
  First edition in English. 
  Cf. Duveen, D.I. Bibliotheca alchemica et chemica. London, 1949, p. 7. 
Errata: p. [24].

[edit] Fourth book

I've been reading about Agrippa lately, and both Charles Nauert (1965) and Marc van der Poel (1997) say the Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy was an anonymous work falsely attributed to him. Is there a standard way to deal with questionable attributions here, or should we keep it listed under Agrippa with a disclaimer? Lusanaherandraton (talk) 11:48, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I haven't the slightest idea (I haven't edit here in almost 2 years). I do know that he didn't write it, but it should be listed another way with a see also (or the equivalent) to that page when its created. Synergy 20:06, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Done and done! Lusanaherandraton (talk) 04:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting

虍 has brought up the point that each book was not originally divided into "parts," but only chapters, and has been reorganizing the book to stick more faithfully to the source. 虍 has suggested a number of options:

  • List chapters in multiple columns
  • Move chapter links to separate pages for each book
  • Use collapsible tables for chapter listings (apparently doesn't work on WikiSource now)

And of course, there's always:

  • Revert back to part divisions

I'd be interested to know other editors' ideas. I'm still on the fence, but some combination of the first three seems like it would be best. Lusanaherandraton (talk) 05:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted part one and two in book one as they had been tagged for a long and there was some discussion at WS:AN#Speedy deletion. I noticed that book 2 and 3 had their chpaters linked, so I did this for the first bits of book one as well. Your option two therefore seems sensible, especially as the work was not originally in parts. However the chapters could still be listed on Three Books of Occult Philosophy, I don't really mind. Suicidalhamster (talk) 15:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Individual pages

I notice that the work is now being divided according to individual pages. However, introductory passages like An encomium have the little [page] link to the left, while there isn't one for Chapter 1, and I can't figure out how to proofread the text without it. Is this a general bug for everyone, or just a problem for my browser (Firefox 3 on Windows XP SP3, btw)? Lusanaherandraton (talk) 03:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Table of letters & pentacle

I've uploaded a new scan of the table of letters from the end of Book I. Though it's clearer, and from the first edition (so presumably more accurate), it lacks the "Pentacle" that appears at the head of the old scan. This feature was apparently added by the English translator (or his printer) and comes from the Heptameron of Peter of Abano. I can't imagine why, as Agrippa's text doesn't seem to mention any pentacle, so we may just want to leave it out. On the other hand, for good or ill, it is a part of the English version of this work, and may merit inclusion for that reason. Any thoughts? Lusanaherandraton (talk) 14:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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