Talk:Woodrow Wilson Urges Congress to Declare War on Germany

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Source: Collected Materials for the Study of the War
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Notes: Minor transcription errors (such as spelling) exist among the different versions of the speech. An "official" version would be nice.
Proofreaders: Ingram


Woodrow Wilson declares war on Germany Revision history at Wikiquote:

(cur) (last) . . 09:12, 4 Sep 2003 . . Nanobug (date of speech)
(cur) (last) . . 05:15, 4 Sep 2003 . . Formulax
— end of edit list at Wikiquote — Kalki 17:48, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Typographical convention[edit]

It is typographical convention to have quote marks at the beginning of each paragraph (and at the end of the last paragraph) in a multi-paragraph quote. I did put the beginning quote marks in, but I did not not put the original quotation marks at the beginning and end of the work. If someone feels that these quotation marks are a distraction, please remove all the quotation marks, not just the ones I added. – Minh Nguyen 00:20, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

In this case, when virtualy the entire article is one big quote, the marks should not be needed. I am, however, inclined to indent or italicize the introuductory material, or other things that are not a part of the speach. Eclecticology 17:41, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Misleading Ellipsis?[edit]

The Austria-Hungarian Government has...actually engaged in warfare against citizens of the United States on the seas

But the rest of the paragraph implies that the Austro-Hungarian Empire had not done this. Does the ellipsis conceal a negative? More generally, I'd prefer to see the full text here, if you have it. --84.9.16.184 14:06, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I absolutely agree. There are several questionable ellipses in the text. The person who originally posted this more than a year ago did so in Wikiquote, and the text was later transferred here as it was then. If you have access to the material through other sources, we would be pleased to see you make the needed changes. Thank you. Eclecticology 06:39, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
That particular ellipsis conceals not only a "not" but about 50 other words as well. The entire speech as presented is butchered. It's been 4 yrs; someone needs to clean this up or delete the whole thing. 68.73.114.58 12:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Btw, here's the full text: http://www.firstworldwar.com/source/usawardeclaration.htm 68.73.114.58 12:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Or for a scanned dead trees source: [[1]]
I've tagged it with {{fidelity}} for the moment. John Vandenberg (chat) 12:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done . Fidelity has been checked against different versions of the speech.

Declaration of War or War Message?[edit]

I think the title of this source is a bit misleading. Wilson isn't declaring war (and according to the US Constitution, he can't). He's asking Congress to declare war. 70.23.23.198 06:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you suggest a better title? John Vandenberg 15:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
It's known as both Wilson's "Declaration of War" and Wilson's "War Message", and should be titled as either or both. This "urges" nonsense was clearly invented by a wikipedian with no academic background in the area and should be removed immediately. That congress *officially* declared war four days later is irrelevant. 68.73.114.58 12:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
The page was originally called Woodrow Wilson declares war on Germany. I moved it to its current name, and dont mind if it moves again to a better name. Would "Wilson's Delcaration of War" be acceptable? John Vandenberg (chat) 03:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
My two cents is that since Woodrow Wilson did not declare war against Germany, the title "Wilson's Declaration of War" would be misleading, but at the current title, it was very hard to find this document, so I strongly recommend moving it to "Wilson's War Message", or "War Message (1917)", or something similar would place it in a more logical and easier to find position. --Mikkim64 (talk) 03:19, 27 February 2013 (UTC)