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Thank you

Hey, thanks for the welcome. If I find some neat stuff that could be of public value and is public domain materials I will try to find the time to add it here on this project. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 07:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Byron v. Rajneesh Foundation International

No worries, thank you for your help and positive improvements to this page. Cirt (talk) 10:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

hi thanks for ze welcome

:)

Mr Jayvd , How Do I start a project page ? and please do help and contribute to the audio poetry of John Keats IDangerMouse (talk) 16:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Before starting a project, start a new discussion at WS:S, and our contributors will give you feedback and help you get it started if it is a good idea. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

djvutext.py

Hi John,

I finally figured out how to get djvutext.py to work (dug through the script and realized it needed some of the DjvuLibre executables which weren't in the same directory :) ). But I was wondering if there were a way to throttle the script. I tried the usual "-putthrottle:" command but it called it an unknown argument. I don't want to flood WS with text uploads so I was wondering if there were another way. Thanks.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 18:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. It looks like the script extracts the text first then uploads it all later. The upload is throttled like desired.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 18:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Need your scripty help

Hey Jayvdb! If you have a chance can you pop on IRC. I know your on a wikibreak, but due and I have been working on a new OCR program. We could really use your help. I'll be online most of today. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 22:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts about keywords

Hi John, I'm taking lots of fun with my bot. So I'm beginning to think about an old puzzling topic: keywords.

  1. how to assign automatically a set of consistent keywords to wiki entries?
  2. how to use the plain search engine to find keyword-matched entries (one keyoword, of, much better, a set of them), without any update of the basic wiki software?

I've got an idea about a way to solve both the sides of the puzzle, but I don't waste your time now: can you tell me if there's about some good talk, just to go deeper into the matter? Thanks! --Alex brollo (talk) 06:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I dont know of any good discussion about keywords. mw:Extension:MetaKeywordsTag might be useful.
Keywords is something that other projects might also need; a discussion at meta:Meta:Babel would be good. John Vandenberg (chat) 08:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Just some outlines of my idea (it's absolutely different from MetaKeywordsTag).
  1. I tested the search engine; it looks for single, complete words or sets of complete words (ignoring the last caracter in it.source). Imagine to add a standard prefix do keywords: i.e. kwhorsemanship for horsemanship. Try to search kwcavallo or kwAutoreDante into Utente: namespace on it.source: you'll get only 1 page as a result.
  2. Now, imagine to add a list of prefixed keywords into categories. A bot could copy them into all linked pages, coupled with the category name. Something like this:

[Category:Books, kwbooks] [Category:Horsemanship, kwhorsemanship] [Category:Works by Xhenophon, kwAuthorXenophon]

Finished :-). Looking for equestrian works of xenophon, "kwAuthorXenophon kwHorsemanship" will find equestrian works of Xenophon only (not the historical ones). If the list of keywords into a category will be changed, the bot will find the old string from the name of the category and will replace it with the new one.

I'll post my idea on MetaBabel just after some comment by you! --Alex brollo (talk) 12:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you want category intersection. i.e. the ability to search for works in multiple categories. This is being worked on. See w:Wikipedia:Category intersection
John Vandenberg (chat) 12:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
YES thanks! I'll study deeply that article, to see if there's something new in my idea. At a first lokk, there's nothing new. But I'ver to read and think much more! --Alex brollo (talk) 15:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I read the links, I discovered lots of unknown features of search tool, but... my idea seems really much more powerful and comprehensive. I'll think a little more about, then I'll open a talk into meta:Meta:Babel as you suggested. --Alex brollo (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I posted my idea into meta:Meta:Babel; the first answer is very difficult to understand, very exoteric. Nevertheless I presume that my idea perhaps hes been not so clearly stated, therefore not completely understood. While waiting for other opinions, another fresh idea for you.... my bot Alebot can read its own talk page, and to reply to the sender with a courtesy message or with a real answer, if it understands a query posted to it. Try - if you like - to post a single-paragraph message containing the keyword "read " and a plain wikilink to an author of Autore: namespace of it.source like [[Autore:Dante Alighieri]]. Sign your message to get the answer. Obviuosly this is just the beginning, but you can imagine that there are few limits both in understanding questions, and to do complex jobs. --Alex brollo (talk) 17:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

U.S. v. Croft 124 F.3d 1109 C.A.9 (Or.), 1997

I added a document on a federal appeals court case, related to the prior one, if you wanted to take a look. Cirt (talk) 16:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I've made a few fixes, and created a redirect United States v. Croft to it, but now that I think about it, actually that should be a dab page? John Vandenberg (chat) 04:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, not just yet, as this is the appeals page of the case, there must be lots of other documents as well. And so when there are those other documents here at this project, we could change that page to an index page of the history of the case. Cirt (talk) 08:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

pointless tag

Discussion at User talk:Eclecticology#pointless_tag John Vandenberg (chat) 14:10, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Would appreciate your input

I would appreciate your input on my texts added to Wikisource, to make sure my additions are compliant with site policy. The most recent document I added, Message to Scientology, has recently been nominated for proposed deletion. The author has released the document and video to public domain verified via OTRS, and it is a notable text that has been directly cited and discussed in many secondary sources and mainstream media publications. Cirt (talk) 18:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Ping

Check your email. :) Cirt (talk) 11:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Possible?

Hey, was just wondering if it would be possible to automate the Welcome template that appears for an anonymous user, resolving their country of origin from their IP address -- and then welcoming them and pointing them towards, for example, "Salaam and Welcome, (normal template text), you may also be interested in checking out Wikisource:Pakistan, Category:Pakistan and Category:Works originally in Urdu" or something? Possible with refinement? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: e. e. cummings‎'. 01:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Templates cant parse the IP address, so it is impossible with only templates. A bot could do it, and that sounds like a good idea for other projects too. there is a meta:welcome.py bot; try asking on the talk page. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Hansard

Are printed transcripts from Hansard of statements made in the parliament of the United Kingdom and speeches by various government officials in their official capacity acceptable to add to Wikisource? Here are two links I am specifically referring to: [1] and [2]. Would appreciate input on this. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 02:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

They are acceptable, in the same way that Congressional Record is. However, more recent ones may still be covered by copyright. We havent clarified the copyright situation of official records of the UK - i.e. who owns the copyright on the words spoken in the House of Commons ? If it is the government that owns the rights, the UK does permit redistribution but the terms are not compatible with the GFDL. John Vandenberg (chat) 02:50, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
When you say "more recent", what specific time frame do you mean? And as to the second part, how can we get further specific clarification on what is and is not okay to add from Hansard ? Cirt (talk) 02:53, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Anything printed in the Hansard is acceptable according to WS:WWI, however if it affects a living person we are starting to lean towards expecting pagescans if there is any doubt about the authenticity.
Anything pre 1958 printed in the Hansard is acceptable per {{PD-UKGov}}. The copyright status of text in the Hansard during UK crown 50 year copyright term is a bit of a mystery to me at the moment.
Anything pre-1923 published anywhere is acceptable per {{PD-1923}}.
John Vandenberg (chat) 03:05, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Cirt (talk) 03:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

New texts redux

Replied on my talk page. Cirt (talk) 13:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Periodicals

Hey, just spotted Electrical Experimenter at Wikisource:Periodicals while adding Collier's Weekly myself; thought I'd encourage/remind you of our current standard practice for such pages such as New York Times -- in my opinion, a much cleaner way of handling any magazine/newspaper. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: e. e. cummings‎. 01:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

When we do Telsa, that page will be given a make over for free. John Vandenberg (chat) 02:05, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Ignore my signature, Tesla began several hours ago! Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: e. e. cummings‎. 02:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

PD-none

This edit correct? He seems to be mid-19th century, though from the "notes" section and non-existant Wiki, I'm going to have to poke around to see if he's even real...once I'm not on a work computer. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 23:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

It might have been correct at the time, but the wording has since. I think it is incorrect now; w:Albanian_pederasty#Poetic_and_literary_references has one text and I am sure there will be more. John Vandenberg (chat) 23:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Hang in there !!!!

I think you are getting a raw deal on your run for ArbCom. You are the best man for the job!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2008/Vote/Jayvdb

I hope things turn around, you deserve better. Epousesquecido (talk) 03:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Fighting this isnt what I had planned for this week, but I will try to find the time. John Vandenberg (chat) 06:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Some questions

Hi! You were kind enough to provide me the welcome message, so I thought I'd bug you with a few questions dealing with the A History of Sanskrit Literature ^_^.

  1. In the Table of Contents I've included a line on the preface, that is missing in the original printing, and documented that adition on the Notes section in the infobox on the talkpage. Can this be tolerated? I've noticed that in some other works that also lack preface included in the ToC, that the preface is put on the main entry in its entirety, before the page with ToC is transcluded. But this second approach seems more cluttering to me..
  2. pages 455-472 are two-column index that I haven't added yet. Is there a way to emulate the two-column layout in wiki markup, and that would fine work when continuously transcluded?
  3. pages 473-46 are a bunch of advertisments..am I really obliged to waste time adding these? Am I allowed to delete these pages from the DjVu file and then reupload the file on the Commons?

Many thanks --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 11:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Lucky me! Here are some quick answers:

  1. The page should match the image, but, small improvements like this are OK.
  2. You can use a table, and then wrap the table syntax in <noinclude> so that it doesnt display as a table when it is transcluded.
  3. you can skip pages that are not needed. Maybe someday someone will want to do them. (I have created pages for a few advertisements - they are sources, and useful for someone researching about business and marketing in the 1900s)

Bug me again if you need more answers, or you want me to demonstrate these ideas. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:44, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

court documents

Hello, thank you for the welcome on my Wikipedia page. I followed your invitation to look around this project as well, and I do have a question: is it possible to add court documents (declarations, judgments, affidavits etc) to Wikisource? There does not seem to be a category for this and such material is not really a "work of the United States federal government". I would be able to provide quite a lot of such material. Proximodiz (talk) 19:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Proximodiz
John Vandenberg (chat) 22:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Crankylibrarian

John, I will use your time off to get the CL cleaned up. It is 10 year old technology and needs some sprucing. COuld you be more specific on the deep link? I should have that support. I will be exploring the chat and message methodology in the meantime. Scott Braswell

Finnegan

Hi john. im new to wikipedia and wikisource, and i was curious as to why you deleted the Wikisource page for Finnegans Wake. Did it have to do w/ copyright issues or was the page subpar? I was considering recreating the page since the website that readers are redirected to is kind of hard to read. --SDedalus91 (talk) 01:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The page was previously only a "redirect" to Author:James Joyce, which means it didnt have any text. Please dont create "Finnegans Wake" Thanks for checking. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Argh; I just did a copyright check and it isnt doesnt appear to be public domain in the United States. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
It isnt copyright in Canada, which means you can add it on wikilivres, a Canadian companion to Wikisource, and we can then link to the page on that wiki. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
ok, thats good to know. I'll try creating it soon then.

Textinfo

Couldn't we automate the textinfo template to appear automatically on the talk page of any work tagged with {{incomplete}} ? Could even grab a name or two from page history for contributors list. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 00:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Need more coders. At present, we need to focus on building tools that do very large chunks of work that a human cant, or wont, do. Also, editing one page based on the contents of a different page isnt easily done with the bot framework. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi Thanks for the warm welcome, I may consider re-nominating myself for admin at some point in the future but I'm going to take some time to re-familiarise myself with wikisource & some of the new policies, etc before then. I also need to ensure that I'll have the time to devote to the project. AllanHainey (talk) 13:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Djvu text loader bot

Dear John, I'm playing with my bot and I enjoy it. As I told you, I'm working about "OCR post-elaboration"; but I can't find the script of your bot, that uploads text content of a djvu file. I'd like to use the output of that file offline, to fix some typical mistakes of OCR before creating a Page and uploading the text into it. Can you help me? Thanks!--Alex brollo (talk) 06:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

m:djvutext.py is the information page about the script. Follow the instructions on m:pywikipediabot to obtain my script and make it work. There are some localisations within the script that will need 'it' values. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:24, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks John. In the meantime I took a better look to Sourgeforge docs and I discovered command-line utilities like djvutxt, and I guess that the python script calls those routines with appropriate parameters to have a one-page-at-a time output.
But at a closer look to Interner Archive files I found too those beautiful .... djvu.xml or ...djvuxml.xml files and now I've a running small python script to extract all what I need from them... passing them to my "OCR-postelaboration" scripts. Problem solved! --Alex brollo (talk) 10:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
If you are parsing those djvu xml files in python, it would be very nice to see your code merged into m:djvutext.py, as the python code is currently using the text emitted from the "djvutxt" command, which is sub optimal. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
While running, my Python code is really rough and primitive, and it is written for an unusual interactive use; the best I can do is to post it as-it-is to be read and fixed before any use by some good programmer. I'll post it into my user page, please ask to any good (and patient) python programmer you know here to take a look and use it as he/you want. --Alex brollo (talk) 23:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
In the meantime: I wrote some templates to simplify the code of textual version of proofread works. You can see the living code into the first entries of it:Delle Frascherie. I.e, all the needed code for the page it:Delle Frascherie/L’Abati al Libro, the second item of the book, is this:
{{Delle Frascherie/Auto|2|{{#section:Template:Delle Frascherie/Pagine|2}}}}
If you like, I could implement here the needed templates on one of my works, just to let you see quietly as they run. --Alex brollo (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Implementing it here would be a good idea; then everyone here can see what you are suggesting. Note that I am mostly busy with English Wikipedia Arbcom these days, so I wont be making many recommendations here on Wikisource for a while. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
OK! I'll try to implement all the stuff into The Modern Art of Taming Wild Horses. --Alex brollo (talk) 23:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Done. I'll report the test into Central Discussion page. --Alex brollo (talk) 08:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

a request

Hi John, I would like to change my username Epousesquecido to Josette (my real name). I have already done it on Meta and I have requested it on Commons and Wikipedia. I could not find the page to request a name change here at WS. Could you please help? Thanks - Epousesquecido (talk) 19:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I recommend that you ask one of the crats at WS:ADMIN on their talk page, or post the request at WS:AN. --John Vandenberg (chat) 02:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I posted my request. - Epousesquecido (talk) 05:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

New transcription

Copied from [3]

Dear John,

Sorry to bother you, but I couldn't find an answer by perusing the chat channel... I',ve just finished this transcription. Unfortunately there were some logical problems involving transcriptions and translations that I tried to solve this way:

  • The book is a short anthology of Carducci's poems translated by M.W. Arms, so it simply can't be reproduced in simple pages with its title. I wanted to give both the poet and the translator their duly credit.

The structure of the book is

  • Introduction (by M.W. Arms)
  • Poems (writen by Carducci, translated by M.W. Arms)
  • Notes to the poems (by M.W. Arms)

I took these decisions:

  • I transcribed each poem and I assigned them to Giosue Carducci quoting the translator (e.g. Miramar)
  • I transcribed the notes and I trascluded them after each poem (viz. in Rome) without assigning them to any author
  • I transcribed the introduction, then I created Author:Mary Arms Edmonds (the real name of M.W. Arms) and .... I stopped! What page should contain that introduction? What title should be given to that page? should I create a page to host the notes too? I have been tinkering with wikicode quite carelessly, so after ending the transcription I would need an expert of internal policies to check my work. I put my work in your hands. Do with it what you believe, because I bet you're the best to do it. Have a good wikitime!

- εΔω 17:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Create Poems of Italy and Poems of Italy: selections from the Odes of Giosue Carducci, depending on whether disambigation is likely to be necessary, create an /Introduction subpage, and include a list all of the poems. See Best Russian Short Stories for a similar case. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Done - εΔω 11:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I have tried to hyper-hyperlink and transclude as properly as I could. I still see too little connection between Poems of Italy: selections from the Odes of Giosue Carducci and Index:Carducci - Poems of Italy.djvu (the [page] sidelinks are useful for single pages, but not for a general reference). if you see any room for improvement feel free as usual to overhaul my work. - εΔω 12:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
It looks good. Sometimes a link to the Index: page is added in the notes field, other times {{edition}} is placed in the notes field, and the link to the Index: page is placed in the {{textinfo}} block on the talk page. The French Wikisource has a tab which links to the index page; I quite like that approach. John Vandenberg (chat) 12:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Wilson

I went ahead and created those docs: User:Rlevse#Wilson. Can you see how I did? Feel free to improve. Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk •

Template:hw

Could you explain the value of using {{hw}} to me? I ran across the template and have been using it for proofing, but I don't see the point of it. It doesn't seem to make it any easier to proof a page but rather just causes randomly placed line breaks in the Page namespace (see Page:Trenchard Tracts 074-124.djvu/4, for example). I saw that you created the template and hoped you might be able to explain why it's important, or point me in the direction of such information. Thanks! --Spangineerwp (háblame) 15:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit Page:Wind in the Willows (1913).djvu/110, and you will see that the text is broken at the end of each line as in the original. This makes it easier to proofread, and means our text more accurately represents the original.
A longer discussion about this template is at User_talk:Jayvdb/Archive/2008-4#Template:Hyphenated_word.
John Vandenberg (chat) 05:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, that makes sense. I don't think the advantage will be as great for the book I'm working on, since my edit windows look pretty hideous with all the {{ls}}, ref tags, and links to wikipedia. As a result I wasn't planning to proofread in edit mode, but maybe a little cleanup will make that more desirable. Thanks for the explanation! --Spangineerwp (háblame) 06:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
We need a software improvement so that newline characters display as new line characters when viewed in the Page namespace, so that line by line proofreading can be done in View mode. I initiated a discussion about that on WS:S last year sometime. John Vandenberg (chat) 06:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the Lancet article

Joseph Lister now has On the Antiseptic Principle of the Practice of Surgery in place. I think that either a science portal or a science WikiSource: is well overdue for lots of seminal papers by Pasteur, Newton, etc. I have asked AllanHainey if he could lend me a hand to send up one of them. Here's hoping. Thanks again. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Nice! Do you want any of the referenced articles. The March 23rd article sounds interesting. The French have lots of nice portals. John Vandenberg (chat) 13:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Another brief translation

Dear John,

Pardon my intrusion. As I saw a booklet with a poem of Pascoli's translated in English I couldn't resist. Here it is with its source. Just three little questions by an en.source eternal newbie:

  1. Is it better to chop the single page into fragments (on it. source we do it very often)? Judging by the unity of the poem I referred to keep it in one page.
  2. What about the traslator. It looks even more obscure than Mary Arms Edmunds, and we don't even have original texts by her. If she deserved an Author page what should I enclose as "work by her"? As for now I'd keep a red link until someone discovers some more writings of hers.
  3. What about the links to Pedia? In this case we have a peculiar theme, a famous Italian painter, depicted by Pascoli as witness of a miracle. Pascoli was very fond of birds and late Mediaeval art. In this poem links could be useful to get a grasp of the context, but they are not historically as needed as in Carducci's poems, so I halted my hands, understanding that links to Pedia should be the exception, not a rule. Maybe, if there are any internal sources abput Paolo Uccello (Catholic Encyclopedia? Something else I don't know?) they could be linked somehow.

After this upload I think I'll take a break here to put my hands on it.source where I left some transcriptions unfinished, so I won't be bothering you for some time. - εΔω 17:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Here are my answers to your three queries:
  1. It is usual to keep a short text on a single page.
  2. See Author:Ella Mary Edghill
  3. Add as many links as you can, if you think they are not controversial. See Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Uccello.
It will be a shame to see you go. Category:Works originally in Italian was growing quickly! ;-) John Vandenberg (chat) 04:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Huh? Populating a category is quite easy if there are already many works originally in Italian ut uncategorized... and since I'm an Italian teacher (both motherlanguage Italian and teacher of Italian language and literature) and enjoying Hotcat, I just knew what to do. Now the category is much fatter :)
As for shame... don't fret. You'll see me back. I'm just wearing some wikihats at the same time (you should know wery well what I mean). If you need any information about Italian (but also Greek an Latin) matters here... drop a line on it. source and I'll fly! On the other hand I found #wikisource chatroom quite useless since I was seldom noticed, and I hate disturbing. :-| - εΔω 16:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for growing Category:Works originally in Italian. Does it.wikisource have a category like Category:Works by original language?
I havent been in #wikisource much lately because of internet troubles and trying to focus on Arbcom (yes, many hats), but I am regularly in there now. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
On it.source we have it: it:Categoria:Testi_per_lingua_originale, where translations from the English could be useful to check out. I already sync'ed it some months ago. - εΔω 10:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Threats to the peaceful observance of the bicentennial

Unless someone volunteers to redact this, or finds a solid argument for PD, I don't see any choice but to delete it. Threats to the peaceful observance of the bicentennial per "To protect the legal interests of the Wikimedia Foundation, these will be deleted unless there are strong reasons to keep them within at least two weeks. If there is reasonable doubt, they will be deleted.". Jeepday (talk) 01:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm back

Dear John,

I told you I wouldn't beaway too long. I found a new task here. since I'm going to upload on it.source a translation fo Dora by Tennyson. The original here is missing, but that won't last long ;) I found this pearl. What about the pictures? Should they be added in the proofread version? And in the textual version? Obviously there's no haste at all, just understand my newbiness - εΔω 10:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Index:Dora 1887.djvu is ready.
It is your decision whether you want to include the images or not. See Page:A Concise History of the U.S. Air Force.djvu/14 and A Concise History of the U.S. Air Force/Trial and Error in World War I for an example of when it has been done. Page:A Specimen of the Botany of New Holland.djvu/14 is another.
However for Index:Wind in the Willows (1913).djvu we did not extract good images.
John Vandenberg (chat) 11:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Missing parts of A Short Biographical Dictionary of English Literature

For the missing pages of A Short Biographical Dictionary of English Literature, are they likely be around or do we have to source them anew? -- billinghurst (talk) 04:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

They are on my disk, and basicly ready to upload. bug me incessantly until I upload them. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:36, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
File:Bee-icone.png-- billinghurst (talk) 05:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

After action report for the M1A1 Abrams tank B-23

Hi, John. Please take a look at this page. Parts of it are displayed as overlapping text. It also lacks a source reference and needs more complete categorization. -- LegalBeagle (talk) 00:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I have fixed the page, and you can see the source by clicking on the "[page]" link (which was previously obscured) which will take you to Page:Summary for B-23.png. --John Vandenberg (chat) 02:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Cool! I'm going to add some categories. -- LegalBeagle (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Javascript footer

Dear Jay, I've seen that your header is doubled with a footer by your common.js. I don't know anything about javascript so I wanted to ask you: is it possible to export this functionality, and make another template (in italian wikisource) do the same thing, or it depends by the template Header itself? I guess I have to copy the js code and change the variables, but I don't know how. If you could give me any tips or links it could be helpful, thank you. --Aubrey (talk) 18:33, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I will build a demo for you. see it:Discussioni_template:Capitolo#class_attribute
John Vandenberg (chat) 02:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Really thank you. I hope I've done well. Really really thank you! --Aubrey (talk) 17:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
That is what I needed. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:16, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Metadata extension

Dear Jay, sorry if I always bother you. I was just asking myself if someone is thinking about writing an extension to fill in the metadata for every book. It could just use th DublinCore and/or other metadata schemas. I'm not an expert at all, but using a formal metadata schema is an old dream of it.source, and before trying to develop a system with templates and bots I would like to know if there is anything in process. --Aubrey (talk) 10:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I dont know of anything being developed along those lines. I would also like to see more established metadata being exposed; Dublin Core, Marc records, and MODS.
I would like to develop a MediaWiki extension to do this within the core software; time to do this is harder to find than time to dream ;-)
John Vandenberg (chat) 10:26, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Eh eh, I believe. It was just a thought: now I'm actually studying in a master in Digital Library, so what before apperared to me more confused it's becoming clear. The whole Wikisource world has a big problem with metadata, as you perfectly know, and everyone is just developing is own way to catalog the books. I really hope to have time and competences to apply the Dublin Core to Italian Wikisource, for example, and I don't really know if is only a matter of labels or if we definetely need some software to do it. Anyway, thank you for the answer. I think is one of the little big things that separate us from "real librarians" (you know, they're really obsessed with metadata ;-)).
PS: have you finished with the monobook.js to create the footer of tl|Capitolo? Can I try it in my monobook? --Aubrey (talk) 02:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Reply to PS: it isnt done yet. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

New page

Moved the stuff to Page:Fort Wayne Journal Gazette Armenian Article.jpg. Thanks. MBisanz (talk) 21:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The text has now been proofread, but needs to be verified by a user other than me...which could be you! ;-)
I have set up a mainspace page for it: Armenians Active in European War
John Vandenberg (chat) 04:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Cheers

for the welcome. :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 06:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Darwin Year

Hi there John,
As you probably know 2009 is the Darwin Year. A couple of months ago I started working on the original version of On the Origin of Species (1859). There still is a little bit of text that needs to be copied on Wikisource (the Index; scroll to the bottom of the page), and, of course, it still needs proofreading. I thought it'd be pretty nice to have the book featured on the main page sometime this year. What do you think, is this this a good nominee for the collaboration of the week? diego_pmc (talk) 13:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

If we can find pagescans of the original from a site other than http://darwin-online.org.uk/, we could tackle this as a "Proofread of the Month", and then Featured texts.
The reason we should avoid darwin-online.org.uk is the mess at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Images from Darwin Online.
There are a lot of editions at archive.org; perhaps one of them is the one you desire?
John Vandenberg (chat) 22:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't able to find the original edition on archive.org, but I found a facsimile on esp.org (click "Table of Contents" and after that choose what you want to see and you will be given a PDF of that chapter). diego_pmc (talk) 07:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

esp.org is a USA site, so it is free of the UK laws that allow darwin-online.org.uk to control redistribution. See background and about Robert J. Robbins.
The PDFs can be merged into a single PDF using tools like "PDFill Free Tools", and converted to a DJVU. (see Help:Djvu), or list this at WS:RT and ask user:Mattwj2002 to help create a DJVU. John Vandenberg (chat) 13:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take care of all of this soon. diego_pmc (talk) 18:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Here's the DjVu file: File:Origin of Species 1859 facsimile.djvu. diego_pmc (talk) 21:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Bible butchery

Please see this message, this edit, etc. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 09:26, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

That kept me busy for a while! :-) John Vandenberg (chat) 13:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
JE Source for Genesis is nominated for speedy deletion. I'll let you decide. Hesperian 11:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Welcome-anon and mention of universal login

Hi J. Wondering whether it would be worthwhile mentioning the universal login as part of welcome-anon message. If it clutters the page, then probably not worth the confusion. -- billinghurst (talk) 23:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

If it is likely that people from other WMF projects wont be automatically given an account here, it would make sense to add it.
I know that most people do receive an automatic Wikisource account, but I have seen cases where it hasnt happened. I am not sure why not.
meta:Help:Unified login is the relevant help page.
John Vandenberg (chat) 00:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Contribution to a Bibliography of Chess Periodicals

Is there any more from this text? I'm not exactly sure what it is. Jude (talk) 14:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, there's more; I fixed the Google link to get to the exact page. It's a small proto-bibliography of chess periodicals, published as an article in Notes and Queries.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Python & Nconvert

Dear John,

I'm exploring what can be done merging python and Nconvert (the command line tool by the creator of XnView). After only two days of tests, I wrote a routine to convert a pdf containing scanned images of two pages of a book, into properly renamed, excellent quality jpg files, each containing the image of one page of the book, ready to be merged into a djvu file by Djvu Solo.

Here the rough but running python code I wrote this night do to that:

import os
def opal():
    for i in range(0,20,2):
        ns="0000"+str(i)
        ns=ns[-3:]
        
   # converting opal.pdf into opal-##.jpg where ## is 00, 02, 04... (opal.pdf is my test pdf file)
        
        script="nconvert -out jpeg -o opal-##.jpg -page # -q 80 -dpi 200 opal.pdf"
        scriptcor=script.replace("##",ns)
        scriptcor=scriptcor.replace("#",str(i/2))
        x=os.system(scriptcor)
        print ns           #control print to know what python is doing
        
   # retailing left page from two-page jpg image and saving it
        script="nconvert -out jpeg -crop 0 0 892 1291 -o pari/opal-##.jpg opal-#.jpg"
        scriptcor=script.replace("##",ns)
        scriptcor=scriptcor.replace("#",ns)
        x=os.system(scriptcor)
        print ns           #control print to know what python is doing
        
   # retailing right page from two-page jpg image and saving it
        script="nconvert -out jpeg -crop 892 0 892 1291 -o pari/opal-##.jpg opal-#.jpg"
        ns1="0000"+str(i+1)
        ns1=ns1[-3:]
        scriptcor=script.replace("##",ns1)
        scriptcor=scriptcor.replace("#",ns)
        x=os.system(scriptcor)
        print ns1          #control print to know what python is doing

        
    return

This is only my rough test but... it's a promising one, and Edo (OrbiliusMagister) suggested to let you know about. Thanks for your attention! --Alex brollo (talk) 10:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Great to hear. Let me know when the code is well tested, and I will incorporate it into pywikipediabot. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
My tests went on, thanks for appreciation; I'll publish here the code as soon as I'll have a neat version of it. --Alex brollo (talk) 09:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

IP block

John, apologies for the vandalism from this IP. Somehow the computers became an open proxy and botnet for some reason; but it has been fixed, and since you are checkuser (from what I've heard), I felt it was only courteous I reply to the blocking admin. Anyone on checkuser-l mailing list (well, that's what I was told was the official one!) is free to take a look at this conversation. Now the proxy is closed, there should be less trouble. I myself personally don't maintain this IP or network; but I am now going to ensure that trouble won't happen again. --84.45.219.185 08:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Removal of access

John

Somehow my ID has been stopped from changing our Wikepedia entry for National Coastwatch Institution. I am a registered Trustee for that organisation and thus authorised to change and update it.

I dont know how this happened buy I have never ever misused this site or any other.

Kind regards Mike Newbold (Check also www.nci.org.uk)-listed as trustee

G'day Mike.
I am sending you an email care of the drupal Contact Us form on the NCI website. Please respond at your convenience.
I sent it to the Secretary, as I couldnt see any tray with your name on it.
John Vandenberg (chat) 09:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Martyred Armenia

is entirely formatted and proofread.

I'd say it's solidly 99% done. It could however, use other eyes — typos and the like. Of course, the world needs to read things like this rather than watch their televisions. Cheers, Jack Merridew 16:39, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Now the hard part is to figure out who the translator is. Tasks like that can keep teenagers in libraries for months! John Vandenberg (chat) 06:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The top says translated by C. Arthur Pearson which would seem a bit off; w:C. Arthur Pearson redirects to w:Sir Arthur Pearson, 1st Baronet i.e. the publishing house. The cover image doesn't actually say he's the translator, whom I expect was some low-level Arabic speaking employer or contractor. I dredged up the archive.org link;
which confirms the pub house and says nothing about the actual translator. Mebbe Fadix knows something. I may post him a note saying it's essentially done and we're trying to sort the details.
Also, I threw a few en:wp links in on a page or two; one, "Society of Union and Progress" I piped to w:Committee of Union and Progress which does talk about the committee having begun as a society; a redirect from w:Society of Union and Progress→w:Committee of Union and Progress would seem appropriate; I refrained.
Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
nb: Page:Martyred Armenia - El-Ghusein.djvu/58
gives the original printing shop the publisher used... Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Add any info you find to Talk:Martyred Armenia, or the notes field.
Involving Fadix is a good idea; maybe he can suggest another related work we could work on; I'd like to push the Wikipedia El-Ghusein article along a bit in the next few weeks, and I intend to drop him a line about that and something else soon.
John Vandenberg (chat) 08:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
might be a place to start. I'll let you take the lead w/Fadix then; no sense in spooking him. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Martyred Armenia.pdf

Seen the PDV version link in your toolbox?

The results are not pretty and it seem related to the {{page}} template; probably other things too. Jack Merridew 16:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Australian copyright summation re Ice TV

Hey John. Not sure whether you heard the ABC Radio National Law Report from today. Interesting summation of the High Court Ice TV case and the consequences for copyright law, especially the components about compilation of information and the ability to reproduce it. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

a technical review

see Template talk:Dropinitial-span‎ and the template implementation.

I'd like folks to have a better understanding of the rather low-level concern here. Specifically, that the use of div-elements is messing with the proper wrapping of text with p-elements. It will be a lot easier to review this while the old template is still in use. Unless I'm missing something, a lot of templates that use divs in this manner should be reworked. This would really apply to all projects to some degree.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Mailto routine ready

Happy to let you know that it:Utente:Qualc1 wrote for me & Alebot a running py routine which can be used to send mails to users by Special:EmailUser page by a pybot. I'm testing it successfully. I see interesting perspectives about accepting queries and send their result by an interactive bot. --Alex brollo (talk) 06:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Another bible one

Bible (Wikisource)/1 Enoch is nominated for speedy deletion, with rationale "from questionable sources, it looks more like a old translation then a new one as well, the creator of it was also banned". I'm not across this Slanders situation, and there is no way I could justify unilaterally deleting it based on that rationale. Can I handball it to you? Hesperian 23:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Sure. I've added {{hangon}}, left the user a note, and asked them to email me. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
19 days now. Time to nuke it? Hesperian 03:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for the reminder. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Goodonyamate. Hesperian 04:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

…and not just for the kind words at WS:ADMIN — for everything; the advice, the friendship, for renewing my faith in the wider wiki-community. And I mean it about the beers; Bintang isn't the best, but it works. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

No worries. It has been a pleasure. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

blank pages

I had an idea. I figured people are wasting a lot of time validating blank pages. I figured you don't need to actually read a page to determine if it is blank or not; it suffices to glance at a small thumb. Low-hanging fruit and all that....

So I wrote a script to pull the first 5000 {{blank page}} transclusions out of the API, filter out the non-djvu images, filter out the pages that are already validated, and create a gallery of thumbs. The outcome is at User:Hesperian/Services/Gallery of allegedly blank images needing validating.

Now that I've done it, I'm not entirely sure how to make use of it. It is much bigger than I had originally comprehended, and has many more non-blank pages than I had expected. Probably the thing to do is to manually correct the non-blank pages (or take the easy way out and delete them, since they contain no useful information), and then validate the genuinely blank pages with a big AWB run.

One issue that leaps out on that page is that this time last year your bot posted OCR for Index:Latin for Beginners.djvu... but the djvu didn't have embedded text, so the bot ended up wrongly declaring blank all 357 pages. 350 of them remain uncorrected. Any reason why they shouldn't be deleted?

Hesperian 04:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Another source of errors is certain people who accidentally use {{blank page}} when {{blank line}} is intended; e.g. [4] Hesperian 04:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice idea! I dont see why a bot cant delete all the blank pages for Index:Latin for Beginners.djvu If there are many that should be {{blank line}}, a bot could detect them by looking for other text on the page - if there is something, it should be {{blank line}} instead of {{blank page}}. Once a few eyes are cast over the rest, a bot can then validate them all. WS:BOTR is where request lie dormant. ;-) I'll be taking an arbcom break as soon as the date delinking case is closed. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've done up to and including the D's. So long as it is acceptable for me to delete the wrongly tagged pages as "G1-No meaningful content or history" (after checking the actual page content and history, of course) then it doesn't take long to weed out the ones that shouldn't be validated as blank. Hesperian 06:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I wont stop you doing it by hand if it suits you. :-) John Vandenberg (chat) 06:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

When I get to L I will probably employ or request a bot... unless I'm really bored that day. Hesperian 07:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Done. It's amazing what you can do with a spreadsheet, tabbed browsing, and half a brain.[5] Hesperian 02:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Signature

Hello, Jayvdb,

I didn't understand the point about the signature, it is my name in it: "Manoel Fernández". Is the name so ugly to scare people away? :) Manoel FernándezMsg 14:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, now I've seen the thing with "Usuário/User" and I fixed that in my preferences. Thanks for the help! It is great to be here helping in English language as well. All the best, Manoel FernándezMsg 14:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
The acute in your surname might scare some English-only people, but we will let you keep it. ;-)
John Vandenberg (chat) 23:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Ancient salt mine

Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Great to see you are slowly making your way through it. If there are any foreign language bits you need help with, tag it with {{?|la}} where la is the language code. Once we have a pile of work, we will call in people with that language skill to fix them all. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I just did another. It was simpler. This is a pain due to many of the footnotes extending to the next page. I have a new trick; when the page is open for editing, get the properties->url of the image and paste it into a new tab. This is the full-sized image so you can actually read it. I keep tabs open with all the relevant scans and also have Xcode up with the full OCR text and the current wiki-text page open for editing. Then there's the inline markup to indent quotes in the footnotes.
Angr did the Greek some time ago. Tagging it worked. There are something like 300 pages that need footnotes pasted over and it just took my two hours to do three.
I believe The works of Horace/Second Book of Epistles is all done and needs proofing and validating eyes; i.e. not mine. I'm part way through the next one. I'm not really why I started late in the work, but that's where I am.
Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

US copyright vs Indian copyright for Indian work

Hi J. Want to add some comment at Talk:Vivekachudamani (Swami Madhavananda) Thx. -- billinghurst (talk) 15:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I am old and slow; Yann has already resolved this one. John Vandenberg (chat) 02:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

A Tale of Two Ballantynes

Hi. Sorry to bother you today. See Author talk:Robert Michael Ballantyne and the recent history of the author page. I've looked about and believe that the image you've transferred to Commons is of Mitchell, not Michael. There are a few redlinks pointing at Mitchell on ep:wp and mebbe he'll warrant and article there someday. I am a bit wary of the 4-edit account on en:wp that uploaded the image I've swapped-in, but it seems ok-enough. I believe what should happen here is the deleted local file should get a brief note in it about the mistake, the image be re-uploaded to Commons with a full name and the old one badnamed, and the several other uses out there be switched to the Michael image. The original of the second image on en:wp can be tagged as NowCommons. If you like what I'm suggesting, give me a nod and I'll sort it out. Best wishes, Jack Merridew 04:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

It is quite possible that I have confused them. I can take any corrective action required on Commons, however I think billinghurst will be the best person to grapple with this one and tell me what needs to be done there, if anything. I've dropped him a note directing him here. John Vandenberg (chat) 14:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Having a look at it. Just as I have been passing through the works looking, I keep finding things to transcribe, eg. obituary, and stuff. John: you are truly evil in knowing that I cannot help grabbing source data on the way passed! :-p billinghurst (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Have to agree with JM's assessment. The initial uploaded photo is specifically sourced to a RootsWeb page that identifies as Robert Mitchell Ballantyne. An image search of Google shows the Commons:Robert Michael Ballantyne.jpg more aligns. The image is referenced and to a book that is most likely to contain an image (personal reminiscences). An image search of NPG shows a bearded man. I cannot see that the author would want to change the mental image that he seeks to portray. All indirect evidence, though reasonably convincing, and especially when considering the alternate image and its clean shaven nature (not very 19thC). -- billinghurst (talk) 16:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Requested rename at Commons. Have updated foreign WP image links. Also found this Commons:File:Robert Michael Ballantyne by John Ballantyne.jpg. Not sure that the old WS link is worth worrying about. <shrug> -- billinghurst (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Request to look over my first submission

Hi John - some months ago you left a welcome template on my talk page, but I've only just now gotten around to making my first submission. I'd appreciate an experienced user giving it a look over to make sure I did things more or less right, and you're the one closest at hand; do you have the time? The page is Edmonton Bulletin editorial on the results of the 1893 Edmonton municipal election. Cheers, Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

It looks good. I've made a few suggestions to the page; feel free to revert and/or tinker.
If you have an author, add that to the author parameter. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Update from your Italian pupil

Hi John, here I am for usual fast greetings. I don't list what I'm doing, I only like to tell you that i'm working more and more as "Alebot driver". My scripts are an orrible mess of more than 100 Kby of python code, undocumented, mainly procedural, and without RE, so I presume that are perfectly unusable by anyone :-( ... but I have lots of fun using them. --Alex brollo (talk) 09:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update Alex. it is great to hear you are making a lovely mess ;-)
John Vandenberg (chat) 10:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Award for participation


Bot help request

Can your bot extract the text in Page:MaryTudorHugo.djvu/x and Page:CromwellHugo.djvu/x? The text appears when I press create a page but it would be necessary to click create page-save page on every page for the text on all the pages to appear.--Natl1 (talk) 17:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

We can probably could get a bot to touch and save the pages, however, our aim is to proof and validate our works, especially OCR'd works. As soon as we start to proof, the text will appear, so it pretty much becomes a moot point. If you think that I am missing something specific, then please do identify otherwise. For bot requests, the best place to ask is the specific page Wikisource:Bot requests. -- billinghurst (talk) 05:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


Persistent Vandal

I need help! Someone is blanking and vandalizing my discussion page and a page I am working on. I have had to revert numerous times. The user name is: user:LordOfTheBirds, and an anonymous user identified by a : 59.93.220.156--Drboisclair (talk) 06:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I took care of it, John. The details are at WS:AN. ResScholar (talk) 08:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Jay, I am labelling this one the Butthead vandal. Back again and fishing on the Admin's noticeboard. I consulted the Stewards and they gave advice on how to block the immediate problem of the current images. I stole imported WP's copy of the file. -- billinghurst (talk) 13:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
/me shakes the casing surrounding JayVDB. Mate, we need some actions to help resolve the Butthead vandal. Beyond starting to protect dozens of pages, it would be good to have a better engineering control, rather than an admin control. -- billinghurst (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I almost got the last one; you beat me by about a minute. I'll stick around for a bit; It'll be my first time ;) Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've blocked 59.93.0.0/16 for a week to give me a bit of time to investigate this further. Please reblock for longer if you dont see me on WS:AN before that block expires. John Vandenberg (chat) 13:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandal

Back again as User:Return of the Fandal. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. John Vandenberg (chat) 23:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Fandal the Vandal

Could you please block User:Fandal - 7 Days Later? He is vandalizing my and others' user pages. --Eliyak T·C 20:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, Sanberg got it. --Eliyak T·C 20:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

File:The letters of Martin Luther.djvu

Any issue moving this baby over to Commons? Just wanted to check that we don't have a specific reason for having it here. -- billinghurst (talk) 23:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Commons requires it is PD in the country of origin, which is not possible until we have an author record for Margaret A. Currie that covers nationality and/or date of death.
OTOH, Wikisource allows anything pre 1923 irrespective of country of origin. Any time I have uploaded something here without a clear reason for it to be here, it is because I am lazy and I am happy to have someone do the research required ... ;-)
John Vandenberg (chat) 11:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
K. Good to know the basis and the latitude. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

OCR button

Hello,

The ocr button is now enabled by default. you'll need to update your preferences as it's been disabled for you. sorry for the inconvenience. ThomasV (talk) 18:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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