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I'm letting you something was added to the front page, you can just delete this note from this nice neat talk :-) Cygnis insignis (talk) 08:40, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and no - I enjoy friends dropping in for a chat. Moondyne (talk) 08:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:Nop

I saw that you used this template—what's the point of it? --Spangineer^wp (háblame) 18:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

If I may interject: It does nothing—literally a w:NOP—but sometimes its mere presence helps to guide the renderer; e.g. ''{{nop}}' makes the renderer treat those three consecutive apostrophes as an italics tag followed by an apostrophe; rather than a boldface tag. One of the most common uses is where a Page: page begins or ends with carriage returns that need to be preserved. Transclusion eliminates leading and trailing whitespace, but if you put a {{nop}} at the beginning/end of the page then the whitespace is no longer leading/trailing and won't be stripped at transclusion; this makes {{nop}} a very lightweight replacement for {{blank line}}. Hesperian 22:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. For eg., I placed a nop at the end on Page:The Passenger Pigeon - Mershon.djvu/252. When /252 and /253 are transcluded, the line break at the end of /252 is preserved. Else it isn't. Moondyne (talk) 23:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Gotcha. I've been using {{blankline}} for that purpose, but your way looks easier and just as good. --Spangineer^wp (háblame) 00:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

So you rule?

I am going to tell Hesperian that you think that you can {{rule}} on his works. :-P billinghurst sDrewth 07:45, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

To do a footnote

Easiest way is to stick a footnote as <ref> in the body of the work, then to put <references /> or {{smallrefs}} after the transclusion and before the div tag. billinghurst sDrewth 07:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I was trying to find a way to do the ref/note link with an "(a)" rather than a "[1]". Any ideas? If not the standard per above is fine. Moondyne (talk) 08:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, I have just got it a little closer <ref group="(a)"> though it will still add the number.<shrug> billinghurst sDrewth 09:51, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Reverted back to vanilla <ref>. Moondyne (talk) 12:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

:-)

[1][2] Glad you approve. It's a game-changer all right. Hesperian 03:17, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

You b@#$%^&s were going to keep it a secret weren't you? Moondyne (talk) 03:30, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Just until I catch up. :-) Hesperian 04:20, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I wont allow that. Moondyne (talk) 13:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I edited your monobook, revert if its not an improvement (of course). Cygnis insignis (talk) 05:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Moondyne (talk) 06:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm theres enough on mainspace en to keep me going 24/8, but hell I have just been photographing 100 year old books that I am going to either throw away or sell for a pittance..so might as well join - here, commons, en are enough to keep me under the weather in every sense for a while i suppose :( SatuSuro (talk) 07:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

J?

That threw me, "J B Wilson" at this page, surely this is Wilson, Thomas Braidwood (1792 - 1843) Cygnis insignis (talk) 08:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Dunno. ADB says he was accompanied by Collet Barker. The Journal only mentions Kent, a soldier, 2 prisoners and Mokare. Perhaps there was another expedition that this is being confused with. Moondyne (talk) 08:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Although your idea is more likely. Moondyne (talk) 08:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Remember that this is the same work that calls Robert Dale "Mr Richard Dale". Hesperian 11:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

(?=)

(?= is a lookahead. You can only use it after the pattern you want to match. I had trouble with this the other day.

If your problem is anything like mine—the bit you want to replace not equalling the bit you want to match—the solution is backreferences. You write your regular expression to find the entire string you want to match, and then put () around the bits you want to "capture" for use in the replace term. Use $1, $2, etc in your replace term to use the bits you captured.

So if you want to change o to 0 whenever it is surrounded by numbers, you

1. Match number-o-number: /[0-9]o[0-9]/g
2. Capture the matched numbers so you can use them in the replace term: /([0-9])o([0-9])/g
3. Replace what you matched with first_capture-0-second_capture: .replace/([0-9])o([0-9])/g, '$10$2');

I haven't tested the above, but it is right enough to give you an idea. As another example, I've compacted all that line break handling to a single line:

editbox.value = editbox.value.replace(/([^\n])\n([^\n])/g, '$1 $2');

which reads as "replace 'not-a-line-break, line-break, not-a-line-break' with 'whatever-the-first-not-a-line-break-was, space, whatever-the-second-not-a-line-break-was'.

Rock on.

Hesperian 02:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Was trying to do a lookbehind with (?=<whatever). Will now try to digest what you said above. Moondyne (talk) 02:25, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I like this edit. :-) Hesperian 13:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I took a cue from Cyg. If I'm doing something wrong, let me know. Moondyne (talk) 14:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

You've identified your first mistake already :P Cygnis insignis (talk) 14:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Mick

I've left Page:The moods of Ginger Mick.djvu/8 and pages like it alone, and am happy to continue doing so; but if I may be permitted to put my two cents in the coin slot, I reckon the text is a caption rather than an intrinsic part of the plate, and therefore ideally it should be cropped out of File:The moods of Ginger Mick (djvu4).png, inserted on the page as text, and the page marked as Proofread instead of Without text. Hesperian 05:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Aye, agreed. Will get to that in a wee while. Moondyne (talk) 00:49, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Is this the best way forward? Moondyne (talk) 07:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks spot on to me. Hesperian 14:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Battye

I don't think so, for two reasons. Firstly, I think it was published in England, not Australia. And secondly, even if it qualifies as an Australian work, it was still under copyright in its home country in 1996, the URAA cut-off date, so you have to use the US life+70 rule, which means wait until 2024. Hesperian 23:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thats a shame. Moondyne (talk) 01:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes. But a correction is needed to the above. US is only life+70 for works published after 1977. For works before that, it is simply +95, so wait until 2019. Hesperian 01:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

[[3]]

That is the page with OCR, when you are done, please get back to me and I will delete the file. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou squire. I owes you one. Moondyne (talk) 08:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Doreen

You have one now? What does yours look like? Mine is almost a pamphlet: bound in cardboard and tied with string, with the cover plate literally glued onto the cardboard cover. There's no date given in the front matter, but one of the ads in the back is dated October 1917. I am thinking that I may have fluked a first edition.

If yours is different, we might need to give some thought about which one we ought to scan....

Hesperian 14:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

"It 'contains more married love to the square inch than anything I ever read,' wrote E. V. Lucas when Doreen was first published in 1917.

You may well have. I don't think it was a big seller so guess there weren't many reprints; Mine's a 1981 reprint in unused condition. No mention of other reprints in publishers notes. ISBN 0207142866. Size and similar binding to early Bloke and Mick editions. So I assume its a close facsimile. Moondyne (talk) 02:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like I had better scan mine then. Hesperian 05:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Moondyne (talk) 06:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

The new line, a paragraph, is usually shown by two returns, I use this to replace the indent and no line spacing that was the fashion of the time. There is a way to reproduce that formatting, though it still retains the line between the paragraphs; it seems redundant to have both. Okay with you to continue removing that? Cygnis insignis (talk) 15:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Think the rest is done now. You should put it up for FT: I seem to recall someone writing the pitch. Cygnis insignis (talk) 23:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you really should. :-) I've come to the considered view that Bloke is the greatest book ever written; it definitely ought to be featured. Hesperian 05:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

We made short work of that, didn't we? Nine days ago we were discussing which copy to scan; and now it's finished! Thanks for the validation. :-) Hesperian 04:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Could you look at Page:Digger Smith (C.J. Dennis, 1918).djvu/16 and see what I'm doing wrong the ns page shows the 2 toc page links one immediately below the other. Moondyne (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

How bizarre. Sorry, I have no idea. Hesperian 05:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

No worries, glad it wasn't anything obviously or stupid on my part. Cosmetic, so I won't be worrying about it. Moondyne (talk) 07:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Little request

Notice modeled after [4]

As Template:New texts is monitored in IRC, and many users have it in their Watchlists, I was wondering whether you would consider adding the name of the text being added to the edit summary, rather than solely +1,-1. Even if it is just have +Name of work, -1 that would be most helpful. Thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 00:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I will try my hardest, but not sure I'll remember. Cheers. Moondyne (talk) 01:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. ;) Cheers. -- Cirt (talk) 17:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

HoWA

G'day mate,

Have been fooling around with doing OCR fixes to djvu-embedded text. Just uploaded a new djvu of Kimberly with 2231 OCR errors corrected. It should make the job of proofing easier, though probably not so you'd notice.

Hesperian 04:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Just had a quick look at some new pages and it doesn't seem a whole lot different but as you say I'd probably not notice anyway. With Part1 complete, and barring pressure from the proofeader, I'm not planning going back there too much if at all. But we'll see. Moondyne (talk) 07:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Essays on Early Ornithology and Kindred Subjects/Australian Birds in 1697

For no particular reason this struck me as something you might like to read and validate. Hesperian 07:06, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Cool. Moondyne (talk) 15:09, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

That was quick; glad you enjoyed it. :-) Hesperian 22:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Index:History of Western Australia

The reason for changing pages to Problematic is that I am learning to be a Copyeditor and Proofreader, and my tutor says a document is not properly proofread unless it has images etc. in the right places. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 07:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

No, that's OK I've been validating some of the pages without images. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 08:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Re your bot

You may wish to consider putting the talk page info on the bot's user page, and then redirecting the talk page here. Also might be worth a quick look at Wikisource:Alternate accounts. Billinghurst (talk) 23:18, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Moondyne (talk) 00:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}} Any watchers: why am I getting "Error: no such file" att Index:Letters of Junius, volume 1 (Woodfall, 1772)? Moondyne (talk) 04:30, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

You're missing the .djvu in the file name. I'll move it for you in a moment. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:41, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Derr! Thanks mate. Moondyne (talk) 04:44, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

User:Moondyne/Sandbox

You have lots of pages tied up there, and to the system all the pages show up as transcluded. Do you have plans to move the page over completely, or do you plan to split them out and transclude each? — billinghurst sDrewth 02:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey mate. I blanked the page while billinghurst is looking for problems. This text is a big job, and you have done an impressive amount of work, I don't suppose there will be a problem with reverting me when you feel like working on it again. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 02:31, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Or can we help to transclude them to the main namespace. I didn't want to interfere if there was a plan. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks both: blanking is fine. I think I created the page just to get a word count of the whole shebang and forgot to delete it. This albatross has been going for 3.5 years and I have run out of steam to finish it off. If anyone would like help by transcluding the individual biographies, please feel free. I'm super busy in RL and dont see me spending much time here in the short to medium term anyways. Cheers to youse all! Moondyne (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

All transcluded, and I blanked the page again. It would be great if you would be able to add it to {{new texts}}. Do I presume that these are to be linked to WP articles? Do you have a template there ready, or do is the need to build one from one of the existing cite templates. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I am very grateful for your hard work, Sir. I owe you a beer. No plans, no template, but a good idea. {{new texts}} is updated. Cheers. Moondyne (talk) 00:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Mmmmm BEER! Little Creatures … Fremantle beer house! Great bad experience. :-) — billinghurst sDrewth 04:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)