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Welcome[edit]

Hello, Samwilson, welcome to Wikisource! Thanks for your interest in the project; we hope you'll enjoy the community and your work here.

Please take a glance at our help pages (especially Adding texts and Wikisource's style guide). Most questions and discussions about the community are in the Scriptorium.

The Community Portal lists tasks you can help with if you wish. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page.

Cowardly Lion 01:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: CSS classes and the Style Guide[edit]

Re: CSS classes and the Style Guide at my talk page: I have no news on which of the CSS classes such as lefttext and prose should be used. --Dan Polansky (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Strange to have just found you after all this time. I'm in Freo too. If you need anything, shout out. Hesperian 13:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Fremantle is such a little town in wiki terms, surely we should've stumbled upon one another earlier. But hurrah to know there's another local here! If you're ever up for espousing a south-of-the-river meetup (WP, I mean) to the rest of the Perthians, I'm all for it; not that the current plans for the next meetup seem to be going anywhere fast. — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 09:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
In case you're not aware: Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/5. Hesperian 13:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what you did ...[edit]

... in the Index environment to Index:Miscellaneous Papers on Mechanical Subjects.djvu however, it was behaving weirdly when edited. Anyway, I have done a tidy up and it now shows. It looks as though it may be a little quirky with direct editing with regard to spaces and the like. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I guess it was something to do with changing the djvu file (removing pages). Thanks for cleaning it up. — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 00:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Tracking edits[edit]

Have a look at something Index:Picturesque_Nepal.djvu and Special:RecentChangesLinked/Index:Picturesque Nepal.djvu which is best contemporaneous to the edit period. On occasions of bothering I can record some of those stats on one of my subpages. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:49, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, so no super-groovy tool somewhere then.  :-) Thanks! — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 00:40, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Index:Base Facilities Report.djvu[edit]

Hi SamWilson.
Done the best I can validating this. Stuck on one remaining page with just too much indecipherable text to honestly validate. Current state of Page:Base Facilities Report.djvu/38 is my best guess at (some of) the missing text.
Overall note: Many (but not all) of the pages had overstruck (cancelled) SECRET classifications which I have inserted on the basis this would have been original text )always at the bottom of the page if present at all; alignment varies.)
  • Please remove these if you think they are inappropriate &/or confuse things (or better yet: any thoughts as to how to represent the DECLASSIFIED overstamps?)
  • Apologies for my badly-thought-out template modification and reversion. You had the style basically right, so I put in exceptions for the sections which did not fit. (Never ever thought I'd be able to use {{hanging indent|0|...}} legitimately!)
Regards, MODCHK (talk) 06:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, it looks great! Thank you for doing all that! The SECRET text looks fine; there's only so far we should go in duplicating the layout of the original, after all. I don't think the DECLASSIFIED needs to be there; if you want it, though, go for it (and I reckon it could just be added to the template). Or just a note at in the {{header}}. Or however you see fit. :-)

I tried to do a bit of work on the printable view, but it's tricky (as always when printing HTML) so I rather gave up.

(Oh, and in the envelope for that item in the State Library of WA there is a sheet of paper with the Wikisource logo and address of the work.  :-) I don't know anything about how it got there... hehe...)

Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 08:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

An "Infobox"?[edit]

I've added a kind of explanation regarding the secret/overstamps in a box below the Contents per (one of) your suggestion(s). Hope this is not too wrong?
Is there anything about the provenance of the document itself which should be added to this?
Speaking of wrong: If you follow the Author link (to United States Navy) you end up here, and the first back link on that page comes back to the Base Facilities Report correctly, yet carries the date 1946, whereas the actual report states 1944.
As I am not the expert, would you mind correcting the reference. (Or was the report frozen somehow for two years? Maybe 1946 was the actual year of declassification?)
Finally, what did you have in mind regarding "the printable view"? Did you intend stringing all the pages together into a single transcluded table, as the way you've written the templates suggests that...? But then some clumsy oaf like me has probably wrecked your careful sequencing!
Regards, MODCHK (talk) 11:10, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
The infobox looks good; it could be added to the notes section of Base Facilities Report too perhaps. As for the source etc. all I have to go on is the library catalogue page [1] (to which I put a link on the talk page of the report). I'm sure an original of this report exists somewhere (in the US?) so it'd certainly be good to track that down.
I've fixed the incorrect date. And I also am no expert! Not by a long shot.  :-) So feel free to change anything to see that is wrong.
As for printing, I think it's probably not worth worrying about too much; there aren't going to be that many people wanting to print that, I wouldn't think!

Fair enough. I also promise never to top-post in ÅÂÁÃÉÃ past punch-column 72 ever again. Oh, I guess that mess means EBCDIC is right out, as well? MODCHK (talk) 08:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


(Oh, and one other tiny thing: generally, it's a good idea to stick to just one level of indentation in talk pages; see w:Help:Using talk pages#Indentation.)
—— Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 05:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
«(!) I had a quick search, hoping some other site happened to have a better copy of the unreadable page (I guess you've already been there.) Turns out Fremantle Harbour ignored the advice of one Sir John Coode, just like another site less than 10km from here. The locals definitely ought to be regretting ignoring good advice, both sides of the country? MODCHK (talk) 08:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I've uploaded a slightly better version of that page. No time just now to proof it more, just now....  :-) — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 10:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: January[edit]

Hello Samwilson, You have written before for the newsletter This Month in GLAM. I see Australia and New Zealand is missing regarding the edition about January 2013, do you perhaps have any idea what GLAM activities were done in Australia and/or New Zealand in January? Can you perhaps write about those? Or do you know who I can ask to write about it? Thanks! (Deadline of the January edition is Friday 8 February.) You can reach me the best at nl-wiki talk page. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 15:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: February in Australia and New Zealand[edit]

Hello Samwilson, You have written before for the newsletter This Month in GLAM. I see Australia and New Zealand are missing regarding the edition about February 2013, do you perhaps have any idea what GLAM activities were done in Australia and New Zealand in February? Can you perhaps write about those? Or do you know who I can ask to write about it? Thanks! (Deadline of the February edition is Friday 8 March.) You can start writing via the page outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom. If you wish to be informed by e-mail next time, please write me at this page. You can reach me the best at nl-wiki talk page. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 00:13, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Quotation marks[edit]

Quotation marks[edit]

Sorry, I just stomped on your quotes. Didn't mean to; was unthinkingly clicking through to the next page and didn't realise it was already validated!  :-) Do you normally do curly-quotes? — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 07:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem and no, those "curly-quotes" were not mine. I never use them on Wikisource. —Maury (talk) 07:25, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Quotation marks[edit]

Quotation marks[edit]

Sorry, I just stomped on your quotes. Didn't mean to; was unthinkingly clicking through to the next page and didn't realise it was already validated!  :-) Do you normally do curly-quotes? — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 07:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem and no, those "curly-quotes" were not mine. I never use them on Wikisource. —Maury (talk) 07:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: April in Australia and New Zealand[edit]

Hello Samwilson, You have written before for the newsletter This Month in GLAM. I see Australia and New Zealand are missing regarding the edition about April 2013, do you perhaps have any idea what GLAM activities were done in Australia and New Zealand in April? Can you perhaps write about those? Or do you know who I can ask to write about it? Thanks! (Deadline of the April edition is 8 May.) You can start writing at the page outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom. If you wish to be informed by e-mail next time, please write me at this page. You can reach me the best at nl-wiki talk page. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 08:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Index:The Boynton family and the family seat of Burton Agnes.djvu[edit]

Hello.

Since the “” issue came up in relation to the above, clearly you have some interest in the work. I would appreciate your advice (if you have any) on an unrelated matter which crops up therein: On pages like this one where numbered lists cross pages, have you any technique for suppressing the continued item number hanging out in space at the top of the page and/or does its presence bother you? I simply have run out of ideas how to remove it and yet maintain the number sequence across pages (well, I don't really: I reset it to the value in the header block… [value=xx clause of <li>]) Similarly: is there a better way to do this?)

Regards, MODCHK (talk) 03:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it matters too much, but a solution in Javascript would be pretty simple. I can't think of another way, off the top of my head. It doesn't affect what's shown in mainspace pages. Do you think it's worth sorting out? — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 03:20, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Whilst I have no doubt you are right, a javascript approach simply did not occur to me (and I can't say I'm all that keen on a solution that does not work "by default" for the next unprepared viewer...) I don't for a moment consider this seriously, but the only "true" answer would be to put all numbers in literally as they appear on each page (and if ever one of us comes across a typesetting error this is what we'd probably end up doing anyway?)
I'm not going to worry about it further unless its bothering you. I have been as careful as I can (intent may not match cold hard reality, of course: please fix if you spot any error!) to make the transcluded case do the right thing in any case. MODCHK (talk) 04:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Editor[edit]

Hello, Sam. The editor you mentioned on my talk page, MODCHK, quit Wikisource after several years here. He was very smart and an excellent editor. He is a sad loss for us. Respectfully, —Maury (talk) 03:30, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for letting me know. My quest against the horizontal bar shall end! hehe. :-) — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 06:24, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

And I hadn't even seen the bunfight[edit]

Re the edit that I made, I completely missed the WS:S bunfight (til now), and just saw the template edits (it was originally my simple concept to provide pointers as we needed them with POTMs). C'est la vie when other things happen in the "vie" bit. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:15, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh! Ah well. I hope it's all ended amicably now! :) — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 23:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Automated import of openly licensed scholarly articles[edit]

Hello Samwilson,

We are putting together a proposal about the automated import of openly licensed scholarly articles, and since you are an active Wikisourceror, we'd appreciate yourcomments on the Scriptorium. For convenience, I'm copying our proposal here:

The idea of systematically importing openly licensed scholarly articles into Wikisource has popped up from time to time. For instance, it formed the core of WikiProject Academic Papers and is mentioned in the Wikisource vision. However, the Wikiproject relied on human power, never reached its full potential, and eventually became inactive. The vision has yet to materialise.
We plan to bridge the gap through automation. We are a subset of WikiProject Open Access (user:Daniel Mietchen, user:Maximilanklein, user:MattSenate), and we have funding from the Open Society Foundations via Wikimedia Deutschland to demo suitable workflows at Wikimania (see project page).
Specifically, we plan to import Open Access journal articles into Wikisource when they are cited on Wikipedia. The import would be performed by a group of bots intended to make reference handling more interoperable across Wikimedia sites. Their main tasks are:
  • (on Wikipedia) signalling which references are openly licensed, and link them to the full text on Wikisource, the media on Commons and the metadata on Wikidata;
  • (on Commons) importing images and other media associated with the source article;
  • (on Wikisource) importing the full text of the source article and embedding the media in there;
  • (on Wikidata) handling the metadata associated with the source article, and signalling that the full text is on Wikisource and the media on Commons.
These Open Access imports on Wikisource will be linked to and from other Wikimedia sister sites. Our first priority though will be linking from English Wikipedia, focusing on the most cited Open Access papers, and the top-100 medical articles.
In order to move forward with this, we need
  • General community approval
  • Community feedback on workflows and scrutiny on our test imports in specific.
  • Bot permission. For more technical information read our bot spec on Github.

Maximilianklein (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

The Boynton family and the family seat of Burton Agnes/Boynton of Barmston and Burton Agnes choked on template transclusion[edit]

GDay. The page [[The Boynton family and the family seat of Burton Agnes/Boynton of Barmston and Burton Agnes] is having issues due to the number of transcluded templates is exceeding the limit. I didn't dig through the pages to find which or where, thinking that you probably more aware of that. If you need a hand, feel free to prod. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:23, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I guess that'd be the fault Page:The Boynton family and the family seat of Burton Agnes.djvu/61, with the biggest family tree I've seen done in wikitext! Thanks for the heads-up. Any ideas on how to fix it? I was wondering about redoing it in SVG, but @MODCHK: put a lot of work into it! Nice to have selectable/searchable text too. — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 23:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I found some time today to fix it, among some others. I split the family tree to its own subpage, and added it into chapter run. The page itself took most of the allowance for post-include size. I am still tempted to also clean up the image and to add it, but no real plans. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:21, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! Good idea, putting it on its own page. I'm planning on finishing proofing it, and then might do something with the charts. — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 11:57, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Chapter headings in 'The Development of Navies During the Last Half-Century'[edit]

The thing is, I did this formatting on an extremely slow connection during a break. Will do all chapters. Tar-ba-gan (talk) 11:55, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

No worries! Thanks. — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 23:45, 23 October 2014 (UTC)