User talk:THX-1138
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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 03:46, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Doing great; some cheats[edit]
Some cheats for you. For a poem, rather than {{center}} you can look to use {{block center}} (just a centered table) to get a straight left edge. To note that {{gap}} has a default of 2em, but can take more values, eg. {{gap|10em}}, though for something like Page:The Life of Michael Angelo.djvu/175 I would generally use a hack like {{right}} to push it to the right, and as it is inside a table (which constricts the width) I generally add a {{gap}} to the longest line above, and let that pushed width allow it to spread. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:46, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help; there are so many templates that it's not that easy to find the right one. I'll definitely use these templates in the future! --THX-1138 (talk) 11:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Curly quotes[edit]
Hi! I've done a little bit of proofing on The Life of Michael Angelo, and I've noticed that you're using curly quotes (e.g. djvu 39). I haven't been, sorry! Generally, I try to conform to whatever a project's precedents are, but with quotation marks I follow WS:STYLE#Punctuation. Do you think I should go back and fix the bits I've done? — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 00:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware that it's the consensus to use the normal quotes and therefore used the curly quotes because I know this from other wikis that are using them. However, I am going to use the normal quotes from now on. If you want to, you can change the quotes on The Life of Michael Angelo to the normal quotes; I will help you with that. By the way, can I use the sign for the three dots (…) or should I use three separate dots (. . .)? --THX-1138 (talk) 14:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I always use a 'proper' ellipsis (i.e. the single-character three dots) because I've heard that it makes things easier for screen readers (proper intonation etc.), and it's easy to type on a Mac keyboard (option-semicolon). There's been extensive discussion about these sorts of things in the past, and I think there's always some disagreement. For example, I use the {{ls}} template for long Ss in Terræ-filius: or, the Secret History of the University of Oxford, but most people seem to see the long S as akin to curly quotes, or st ligatures, and not desirable in the main namespace. Basically, I don't know where the consensus is, other than what gets ratified in WS:STYLE! As for changing The Life of Michael Angelo curly quotes: let's ask on its talk page what the other contributors think. Oh, and while we're on the subject: what's your take on em dashes and their spacing? I've added a note about them to WS:STYLE. — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 02:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply; I also think that the ellipsis sign is better than the three dots and am glad that it can be used here. Regards the long S and the em template, I rather use the character itself because every template in a page increases the load time a little bit; therefore it's better to write — than {{--}} even if the change in load time is only very small. For em dashes I put no spaces around them because to me it then seems to be closer to the original. However, in the German wikisource where I'm also active we use the shorter en dash with spaces around it because this is how it is typed in German literature. --THX-1138 (talk) 13:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- I always use a 'proper' ellipsis (i.e. the single-character three dots) because I've heard that it makes things easier for screen readers (proper intonation etc.), and it's easy to type on a Mac keyboard (option-semicolon). There's been extensive discussion about these sorts of things in the past, and I think there's always some disagreement. For example, I use the {{ls}} template for long Ss in Terræ-filius: or, the Secret History of the University of Oxford, but most people seem to see the long S as akin to curly quotes, or st ligatures, and not desirable in the main namespace. Basically, I don't know where the consensus is, other than what gets ratified in WS:STYLE! As for changing The Life of Michael Angelo curly quotes: let's ask on its talk page what the other contributors think. Oh, and while we're on the subject: what's your take on em dashes and their spacing? I've added a note about them to WS:STYLE. — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 02:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)