User talk:とある白い猫

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Welcome

Hello, Cool Cat, welcome to Wikisource! Thanks for your interest in the project; we hope you'll enjoy the community and your work here. If you need help, see our help pages (especially Adding texts and Wikisource's style guide). You can discuss or ask questions from the community in general at the Scriptorium. The Community Portal lists tasks you can help with if you wish. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. --Benn Newman ^(AMDG) 14:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Transcript of the 'friendly fire' incident video (28 March 2003)

Is there anything specific about it you see problematic? --Cool Cat 15:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No {{header}}, the colours are out of place with the rest of Wikisource (you should probably just use prettytable. --Benn Newman ^(AMDG) 15:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The colors are to identify individual speakers. {{header}} will be there soon. --Cool Cat 16:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Username rename

Please rename my account User:Cool Cat to User:White Cat. Thanks. -- Cat ^chi? 12:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I renamed you. Let me know if there are any issues.--BirgitteSB 03:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Cat ^chi? 16:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Do NOT

Do NOT edit the userpage of my bot. -- Cat ^chi? 09:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

If you don't want others putting anything on the "bot's" user page, then please add something yourself to the effect that the proposed bot has not yet been approved. Eclecticology 20:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

What makes you think the template is only for approved bots? It exists to mark non human (automated) editors. -- Cat ^chi? 21:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Bible (King James)

The interwikis should probably be reverted. It is very unlikely that the actually link to a translation of the King James edition of the bible. We need to do some human investigation before doing interwikis in this area.--BirgitteSB 02:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

So which ones should stay and which ones should go? -- Cat ^chi? 02:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm . . . remove cs, pl, ro, ru, sr, sv, uk. la is appropriate.--BirgitteSB 02:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

more interwiki madness

This has been reverted; I've not investigated how the interwiki bot went offtrack for that one. The rest of the recent interwiki additions look good. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 02:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikisource as a whole

Can you detail for me what your goals are in regard to Wikisource as a whole? You have said general things such as you want to help, or standardize policy. But what specific things do you wish to achieve? --BirgitteSB 18:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. I have been busy IRL.

I wouldn't call it a goal... I feel it would be better for all wikimedia projects (not just wikisource) to have a standard on issues concerning interwiki. Of course each wiki will have its own flavor. But for example policy and issues concerning usernames in general, policy and issues concerning bots in general are issues best to have an interwiki standard. Local policy should be as restrictive or freer than this standard.

Consider the case of en.wikipedia policy banning non-latin charred usernames for example. Imagine how useless SUL would be... A user from Japanese wikipedia or any other non-latin charactered wiki would not be able to edit en.wikipedia had the username policy were not standardized. This is a mere example why such changes are particularly helpful. There is no reason to have a rule, polic or guideline for the sake of having one.

Like all volunteer projects I expect neither pay nor services for my contribution. It wouldn't be voluntary otherwise... :) As for spesific tasks I want to take care of, I would like to operate my bot for three major tasks.

• Double redirects: I wish to take care of double redirects on all wikis operated by the foundation. This is a mindless task redirect.py can easily handle. One does not need to pay any attention while the bot processes this task. Despite this I frequently check what the bot is up to. This way I report redirect loops (redirects that form an infinite redirect loop with no end point) to the admins on local wikis.
• Interwiki linking: This is also a mindless task for the most part yet interwiki links seems to be a complicated problem. This is not a technical problem but instead a cultural problem seemingly unique to wikibooks and wikisource alike. From what I can tell people are unsure how to use interwiki links. Since you know the problem so well, I wont bore you off with the details. The solution to this problem should be agreed on an interwiki level. This standardized consensus will need to be applied by an interwiki bot approved by each and every community. This is the function I hope to fulfill.
• Commons delinking: When the toolserv dies, commons delinker dies. Us in commons have issues without commonsdelinker. You see when a commons administrator decides to delete an image officially he or she is neither expected nor required to remove every instance that image is used. But unofficially commons admins are expected not delete heavy use images unless there is a delinker bot ready to delink. It is very poor publicity to have zillions of red linked image links infesting a wiki. They will easily get out of control if left unattended. It is very difficult for a human to find and remove an image on tens or hundereds of wikis of which a good number has a special character set. It is not fun to hunt for a phrase among millions of "?"'s. Because the services of the bot is this vital, I decided to request permission to handle this task for cases where commonsdelinker becomes inoperable. I have no intention of running this function unless commons delinker dies.
• I would be more than happy to deal with additional tasks.

Smaller wikis like wikisource do not need a whole lot of bot work. I am sure a human or twenty can handle these tasks manually but I feel rather than dealing with a task a mindless bot can handle, such people are better of working on something else. A bot cannot write articles for example.

I guess my ultimate goal is to take care of as many tasks from the hands of 'humans' so they have more time working on something else where bots cannot venture in. It is a waste to use human power for tasks cpu power can handle.

-- Cat ^chi? 15:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

interwiki sync

As discussed on IRC, I will add here templates that I know need to be synced because I have added one to the English page. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 08:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Template:Wikipedia
• Template:Header (the list of interwikis is on Template:Header/doc (can your bot handle that?))
• Template:Author (the list of interwikis is on Template:Author/doc)
• Template:Welcome
• Template:Welcome-anon
• Template:Ambox

Hi, would it be possible to move interwiki links off of the /doc page to the actual template page. That would simplify the code immensely. -- Cat ^chi? 12:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

No. The templates need to stay as they are coded. Thanks for letting me know this is a problem. We'll do it manually until the code improves. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 12:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

sync on it.source

Dear White Cat,

I recently added a lot of interwikis by hand on it.source in order to synchronize translatios and original texts. Obviously my work is partial (viz. involving only ns0), but many added interwikis should help your bot to synchronize a lot of sources so it would be useful if your bot could check them and spread missing interlinks on "non it." sources. - εΔω 17:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)