User talk:Wolfman

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Curly Quotes[edit]

I did as you suggested on my talk page, and changed the skin to "classic" and I did see the curly quotes. However, in the default skin I do not. I too use Firefox (1.0.7 at the moment) on a Windows XP machine, and I do not see curly quotes. I have noticed differences in how Firefox renders fonts between platforms. For example on an XP machine, running Firefox Hebrew vowel points do get rendered properly; but on Mac OS X and the same version of Firefox they do. —Wikijeff

Welcome template[edit]

May I suggest that you mention the Help pages here. Many are specific to working on WS. I have added a number recently since writing for WS can be more complex than composing prose for WP, and I feel that editors need all the help they can get. Kind regards Apwoolrich 18:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

done. good idea, i hadn't even noticed the help pages before. of course, always feel free to edit the template anyway you like; it's there for anyone to use. Wolfman 19:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


I shall be very grateful for any feedback about the help pages. There has not been much so far. I shall also be glad to hear about any topics not yet covered. I am just now thinking about CSS for WS use. A while back somebody mentioned one which can go on the editor's browser which allow the page to be seen in book-page format, with a short measure. Its very much of a learning curve for me, and most of what I have done has never been needed for WP. I like to think I am experienced WP editor(from May 2004), but its been a task to actually find out about some of this. I actually work as a freelance publisher's editor and I write books as well, so I am very familiar with MS production on a PC. Its quite similar to what we do here. Apwoolrich 20:37, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I'll gladly have a look. It will be a week though — I'm just leaving town now on business. I've been wondering about css myself; I've seen somewhere how you can set up your own css file via your user page. Wolfman 20:42, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I have added a sentence to your Welcome template pointing the need for editors to abide by Copyright rules. We seem to be getting a number of texts added which are clealy copyvios, so people have to waste time getting them off the servers. Also, I wonder if it might be possible that each time a new editor first logs on, the Welcome message is automatically added to his/her discussion page, so saving the need for us to contiually trawl the user logs adding the welcome by hand. I don't know how this might be done. Apwoolrich 14:54, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the template addition, that's a good idea. Yep, I'd like to see it automated too. I think it would be a lot of trouble to get a developer's attention on it though. That's one reason I wanted to get my bot re-tagged. I can just cut & paste the user creation log, and have my bot run through the entries automatically. As soon as I get some time to refresh myself on how to program the bot. Btw, I'm still planning to have a look at your Help pages when I get a couple free hours. Wolfman 16:04, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
I am struck sideways at the speed you are adding Welcomes to new users' talk pages. How are you doing this? A Bot I assume. Kind regards Apwoolrich 19:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Admin - Who me?[edit]

Thanks for the idea. Er. Um. Yes I think so. What's involved? 213.1.45.6 16:27, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Fine, go ahead. I will make a note for you to be added in about a month's time, if nobody else does it:) For some reasom I keep dropping off the login, and don't always notice it. Hence the IP. Apwoolrich 19:50, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Revolution[edit]

If in doubt consult EB1911!! This has major index entries titled 1) American War of Independence, and 2) American War of 1812. I think it best to follow these. When I read your message I had to make a monentary mental gear change, as I did very briefly think you meant American Revolution to mean the Civil War. In the case of 1812 I think is best to qualify this with 'America' as I sure there were other wars somewhere else in the world in that year. Hope this helps. Apwoolrich 20:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Foreign languages[edit]

I urge you add a bit to the Welcome template pointing out that we are the English Language Wikisource, and that anything on other languages should be elsewhere. I am about to go to bed other wise I would have done it!

I have in mind to draft in a day or two a help page on the use of templates in Wikisource, structured to editors can see what to use at the start of a document (author one), and so on. To include how to use the Text quality template etc. The reason why I am keen on making these help pages, is that is if I, as an experienced WP editor, has problems finding out how to do things, the newbie will be even worse. I have placed them all in the same general area, but in time I can see their order in the help list being swopped around a little to make the logic a bit more sensible. As it is I just add a new one to the bottom. I find the various Help pages on WP very cumbersome indeed to use, and have a box file with printouts, but even here waste a lot of time trying to find a half-rememberd one. I aim to keep these pages brief, but there is room for expansion of any one if the need arises. Apwoolrich 21:17, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikification[edit]

Thanks for the heads up. I added my remarks. Please follow the links you think "mundane" you may not realize how specific they actually are. Then again you might have done that already and truly found them mundane. I obviously think what I did has real value, but I have no hard feeling for you believing otherwise --BirgitteSB 23:33, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Could you check out my user page and let me know what you think about that sort of setup compared to "Fuzzy-Wuzzy". I feel this set-up would answer objections, but do you feel it is an appropriate way display poetry? Will it become to cumbersome with longer works? It is not a great deal more efffort and by using templates there is an extra line of security for the proofread and formatted text.--BirgitteSB 16:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Admin?[edit]

In view of all the valuable work you have been doing, in particular on copyrights, Wikification and Bot-ing, how about going for Adminship now and not in few weeks time? My feeling is that we need your input. If agreeable, I will nominate you. Apwoolrich 07:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I think that would be a useful tool for me. However, I'd rather wait a week or so until the whole copyright issue is settled by the admins (or meta) before I go up for admin myself. I feel as though I've been in more of a quarrel than a debate. So, I'd rather feel free to speak my mind, without also being one of the ultimate judges of the issue (having the 'delete/undelete' button). After that, I'd be pleased to go up.
This seems a huge issue to me. Personally, I see it as a moral issue; governments have no right or legitimate purpose in restricting disemination of "edicts" and such. Second, it's a practical isssue, are we wikisource or the copyright police; why try to outguess the U.S. copyright office as to what is afforded copyright protection? Third, this is an issue of how comprenensive & modern & useful wikisource intends to be. My view is that we are here to provide access to information, and we should provide any useful archival information which we reasonably believe is legal to post. Otherwise, we might as well be named the pre-1923 wiki. Wolfman 16:31, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Patrolled edits[edit]

I think since I'm an admin I can change it (although I'm not too sure about that), but I don't know how to access the php file. If I can figure out how to access that file (or someone else can, as my life is very busy right now), then I'll gladly change it.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 15:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

That's a shame; it would be nice if each wiki could activate the feature itself (have a checkbox for an admin/bureaucrat to check that would instantly activate it). If we do get an increase in vandalism from anons, I say we try to get that feature turned on. I don't think we would need to file a bug report for that--getting Brion on IRC would probably be enough.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 17:03, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Backlinks[edit]

Actually, Mike uses arrows for the backlinks he does. Arrows probably would remove any confusion about those marks being a typo and would still indicate a "backwards" feature. I agree that unless you're used to it, using "<" does look like an error. Maybe we would like to think about moving over to a left-pointing arrow (←)?—Zhaladshar (Talk) 04:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Author Template[edit]

I noticed you were online right now. Do you know how to use Template:Author. I am trying to add a new author and I cannot figure it out.--BirgitteSB 03:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help--BirgitteSB 03:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Spam[edit]

Hi,

It is useless to try to talk to spammers. Those people just hit and run. They don't care at all what it is going on here. :( Besides, they change their IP address immediately, so they will never see your messages. Yann 15:32, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Lewis Libby[edit]

I am strongly opposed to this sort of organization scheme. Traditionally, Wikisource has never accepted this form of categorization for pages. The main namespace just doesn't seem to be appropriate for what that page is trying to do. I say get rid of it, so it doesn't create any kind of confusion. About such things as Ocey Snead: the contributor is copying that information from other sources, so I would give him the benefit of the doubt and assume this was previously published. Even if it does seem to be useless...—Zhaladshar (Talk) 00:25, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Categories would probably be the best way to go. Also, author pages (where we link to works written about that author) might be equally as good.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 00:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: soufron[edit]

Yes, I see his blog entry. I hope that gives us a green light to add more UN resolutions. Once proofread, I, as an administrator, will start protecting these pages as well.--Jusjih 10:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


Hide/show tab[edit]

Did we ever get this implemented sitewide? I switched off of using the Monobook skin because it was too hard to differentiate between periods and commas when proofreading. I am using Classic now and lost my choice to hide/show wiki links. Can set this up on the skin am now using I lost track of where I saved that code as well. Any advice would be appreciated.--BirgitteSB 19:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Javascript[edit]

I'm not a JavaScript pro (actually, I've got very little JS ability) but it looks very nice. Would it be okay if I copied some of it to my monobook so I could give them a test ride? It seems that some of the tabs you've written are ones that I use on a daily basis, and they would make my life easier, too. As of right now, I can't think of anything other than what you've written that I need, but I'll keep any possibilities in mind.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 22:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I did think of a suggestion. Well, I don't know if this is better suited for a bot or not, but I was thinking about our backlinks...Inexperienced users always remove the little "<" from the top page, thinking it's a typo. What if we put the backlinks in a colored box and use a "←" symbol instead. Of course, we can only use the arrow, but the box might be good to show people that the symbol used is intentional. If this is something that can be done, we should move this to the Scriptorium and see if other people like the idea.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 00:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I expect I am pushing it a bit with all that you have on, but I wonder if you would have to time to write a simple procedures document on how actually to apply these scripts. Maybe add it to the Help:Editing tools for Wikisource — CSS, Javascript etc. page. I am a complete ignoramus on programming and have got into a mess in using the scripts I have on my page Once the user has placed the scripts on his user page, how are they applied for everyday use? I assume that chunks of the codes are pasted into particular documents and can then be activated. The diffculty I have is not understanding in plain language what the various scripts do and what I have to do to use them. Kind regards Apwoolrich 19:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I have just spotted a page on the German WS with more JS stuff. [[1]]. Is it new to you?. Apwoolrich 08:47, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Admin[edit]

Hi, Wolfman, you are now a sysop.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 15:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcome to adminship. As I have found your comment at http://soufron.typhon.net/article.php3?id_article=112 about the Sedition Act of Singapore, you could say something at Wikisource:Possible_copyright_violations#Sedition_Act_.28Singapore.29, but I have deleted it as copyvio while there was no comment for its retention. If we ever have a valid reason to undelete it, we should consider a new copyright tag. As I have just created Template:UNCopyright for UN works here and in French and Chinese at these subdomains, I will start manual proofreading of UN resolutions and protect these pages soon.--Jusjih 07:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Deleted user page[edit]

I see you slapped a welcome message on my talk page on Oct 27, 2005, even though I didn't make any edits around that time and I've been a registered user for far longer, as can be seen by my contributions. I came to check my user page just now and it was gone! Any ideas about how it got deleted? I assume it happened sometime shortly before you "welcomed" me. My preferences are also gone (reverted to defaults), BTW. Weird. - dcljr 00:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah-ha! I just figured out what the problem was: I have one user page on wikisource.org and (now) one on en.wikisource.org! Damn... have I been editing both wikis this whole time without realizing it? Or are items being moved from one wiki to the other and my user contributions ([2], [3]) reflecting the changes as they're made? - dcljr 03:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for all the messages, but I just checked the other Wikimedia wikis that have separate language domains and this is the only one for which domain.org/wiki/User:Dcljr didn't redirect to en.domain.org/wiki/User:Dcljr. Witness: [4]. Is this a bug? - dcljr 04:42, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Above text in this section copied to Wikisource:Scriptorium#New-domain shenanigans by dcljr 06:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC).

Templates[edit]

I was wondering if you could have Wolfbot add Catagory:Template to everything in the Template namespace. I think there are a lot of thing lurking there that we don't realize, and that we could look at everything together and start organizing it.--BirgitteSB 14:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC) Nevermind I just found the complete list and there has been alot of headway made by others today on organizing--BirgitteSB 20:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Request for page protection[edit]

Could you please protect The Island of Dr. Moreau. The text from a Project Gutenberg source, it is stable, well wikified, and not likely to change except for any error correction requests. Also, what happend to the Gutenberg catagory? Several texts on Wikisource originated from that project. It would be nice to be able to group them.

Thank You! —Wikijeff

Welcome to Wikisource[edit]

You might want to consider adding a link to your Talk page in your "welcome" message. Otherwise, it's kind of pointless to ask newbies to contact you on your Talk page, no? :) --Quuxplusone 02:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Wolfman

We redesigned the welcome template since you were last around and that caused Quuxplusone's confusion. I will look for any others to fix--BirgitteSB 07:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

.hu[edit]

Hi. There has been a request to create a .hu subdomain for wikisource. here I don't know if you are the right person to ask to do it, but I would like to ask you to help if you can. --Dubaduba 10:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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