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Considered Adminship ?[edit]

Gday Xxagile. I am wondering whether you have considered Adminship? Your edit history is excellent, though it does have a little weakness in community conversation, eg. not a lot at Scriptorium, and you obviously do watch Recent Changes (though interestingly, I cannot see that you have specifically patrolled works). Anyway, things there for your consideration. Do get back to me if interested. billinghurst (talk) 00:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I would be interested in becoming an Admin, but as you have stated I don't have a lot of communication within the community itself. Patrolling hadn't really caught my attention on here as much as it did on Wikipedia but I am familiar with the process. Maybe I should participate a little more in community discussions before becoming an admin, but I will leave it up to you as to whether you think I am qualified or not. As for the nom, thank you for even considering it. :) I was not expecting it. --Xxagile (talk) 02:35, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I will do the nomination, though will do it over the next few days. Do note that there is a neat Gadget for patrolling that does make it a lot easier. billinghurst (talk) 03:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Apologies for taking longer than I said that I would. Done now. If I still have your attention and interest in taking on the role, please do accept the nomination on the linked page. Thanks. billinghurst sDrewth 04:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix[edit]

Thanks for picking up my nuff nuff mistake with the bot. I started adding the text, then realised that I had the link incorrect (long story), so I added them back to get their link fixed, however, it jusst added it a second time. :-/ billinghurst sDrewth 05:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. :)—Xxagile (talk) 16:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


Den of Espionage[edit]

In my opinion, the links on the pages themselves makes it easier for the collaboration work, since people aren't fussing with page numbers and such (and there's a good chance we'll later have to move some of the pages around in the DJVU when we figure out where "page 3 of that letter" is, if it even exists) - whereas the Table of Contents is better for the "final copy" of the actual file. You might ask Matt's opinion, I have terribly little experience/knowledge of DJVUs to be honest...I just really want to get this collection proofread - it doesn't exist anywhere online yet - and it's tremendously interesting as a snapshot of history. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 04:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Den of Espionage[edit]

Hi Xxagile, I would be glad to help you with the Den of Espionage document. Ideally, it would be great if you could some how get me a zip file with the images you want in the right order like 1.jpg 2.jpg etc but if not we'll have to think of another way of doing this. I am really glad to see you working on this document! Thank you so much for your help. Please leave me a message on my talk page with your thoughts and ideas. Thanks! --Mattwj2002 (talk) 00:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Sysop[edit]

Hi Xxagile,

You are now a sysop. Good luck!—Zhaladshar (Talk) 02:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Congrats. Continue to hasten slowly and know that we are still here to support. Plus if you are language skilled, please add them at Wikisource:Administrators#Current administratorsbillinghurst sDrewth 07:08, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the promotion Zhaladshar and I will be sure to ask you about any questions that I have Billinghurst. --Xxagile (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Index:Documents from the Den of Espionage.djvu[edit]

Xxagile, I am willing to create a new djvu file once I know what pages should go where. Please let me know! I think you are the most active person on this text. Thanks in advance for your help with this. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 00:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

XXagile, sounds good! Lets let it be. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 02:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Save yourself the trouble?[edit]

Why don't you save yourself the trouble of making a gazillion edits like this one[1], and simply make MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_template omit the DEFAULTSORT if a key value is not present? i.e. change

{{DEFAULTSORT:{{{Key|}}}}}

to

{{#if:{{{Key|}}}|{{DEFAULTSORT:{{{Key}}}}}}}

Hesperian 23:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


The latter line reads as "If a key value is provided, make it the default sort." It is implicit that if a key value is not provided, the default sort is omitted. When a default sort is not given, the page title is used. This would save you the trouble of having to manually set the key to the page title on hundreds of pages. Hesperian 23:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


In that case, what you need is

{{DEFAULTSORT:{{{Key|PAGENAME}}}}}

I've done it for you.[2] The update will be asynchronous, so it may be a little while before you start seeing the change to sort order. Hesperian 00:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


It can be difficult to debug these asynchronous updates, but my feeling is my edit hasn't worked, and I don't know why. It was a fairly simple change, so I can't see how I could have gotten it wrong. But the category still looks the same, the asynchronous job queue is not particularly long, and not even a manual edit has succeeded in forcing a re-arrangement. Stumped. I'll let you know how I go. Hesperian 00:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Something has happened as it is filed under E, so maybe PAGENAME variable ignores numerals <shrug> — billinghurst sDrewth 03:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
No there are lots with similar names. That particular one is still sitting stubbornly under I. Hesperian 03:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

You should now have rollback[edit]

As an admin, in your package of tricks, you now have the ability to rollback edits. Rollback is more powerful than undo as it obviates the need to patrol an edit, and returns matters to the status quo. I find that I use rollback where it is pure vandalism and in similar situations where other admins don't want to be opening the original post to patrol it. See m:Help:Reverting for detail. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. --Xxagile (talk) 04:21, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Comfortable managing the PotM little works at the moment?[edit]

Are you comfortable with me leaving you to manage swapping in and out the PotM little works for the remainder of the month? If yes, I will get on with setting up for March, and put forward an idea for April from another user, and a few other housekeeping tasks to hand, plus finish off awards. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:42, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Up to some validation?[edit]

The ToC pages at Index:Emily Dickinson Poems (1890).djvu need validation, and not obviously missing their bits. If you have a chance, could you validate them? Thanks if you can. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I did it. Regards, Cygnis insignis (talk) 14:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

not without text, not quite[edit]

Cheers for the validation, let me know if need the same. I notice you marked this as 'without text', but if you hover your cursor over the image you will see that is not quite true :-) (if you have pop-ups, select the option to disable them.) Cygnis insignis (talk) 07:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I completely missed that. Thanks for letting me know. --Xxagile (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Hope that they went well[edit]

Hope that they were very exciting and you excelled in the time. Nice to see you back in action. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:39, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Billinghurst, they went surprisingly well, its good to be back though. --Xxagile (talk) 20:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! What am I doing wrong?[edit]

I have put together parts of a few books before, but now I can’t seem to do it right. What am I doing wrong with A book of the Pyrenees and the chapters and heading? Is there an explanation anywhere of how to do this correctly? Thanks! Mattisse (talk) 22:40, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the lighting on that image for A book of the Pyrenees. I tried but for some reason I couldn’t get it right! Mattisse (talk) 23:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Proofreading The Bad Child's Book Of Beasts[edit]

Thank you for finishing the text. - Theornamentalist (talk) 04:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You’re welcome. I meant to do it earlier but forgot! :) --Xxagile (talk) 04:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

stanza break[edit]

I don't know how to make this work, though I think I found away before. The problem is how to make the spacing for stanza breaks the same when one is on the next Page. I do it a different way, this is one of the reasons I gave up on poem tags, but I think it is fixable. cygnis insignis 17:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, cheers :) It bugged me, but it had me beat. cygnis insignis 17:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Nice thinking. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

A Book of Nursery Rhymes[edit]

Gday Xxagile. Was working on list of validated though not transcluded pages and saw lots of pages from the above work. When I started to transclude the pages, they didn't work together well, so here for an opinion. I have formatted some pages with {{block center}} and that seems to work a little, however, I thought that you may wish to look and to fiddle too. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:49, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Block center seems to work pretty well, although there are still some alignment issues, it is still much better than before. Formatting this book seems fairly problematic. I’ll take a look though and see what else can be done. Thanks for the tip. :) --Xxagile (talk) 02:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

A Christmas Faggot[edit]

I have joined the ToC together, and done some fiddling with the formatting. I made the table a fixed width of 400px rather than 100% which looked tres weird on my monitor, though will let you change it to what you think suits. Inductiveload has done some work to aid formatting tables at {{table style}} and I have used some of that, and some cheat on that page. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:27, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Swiss Family Robinson[edit]

The Swiss Family Robinson, In Words of One Syllable/Preface + all the chapters...

Hi - just wanted to touch base with you about the above work. Someone has transcluded the entire content to the top page and has put all the existing sub-pages in for sDelete. If that's ok w/you - please delete or touchback w/me if not. — George Orwell III (talk) 06:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't like the look of the text all on one page. It makes for a lot of continuous scrolling. Splitting it into chapters makes it easier on the reader as far as navigation goes. I won't fight it though if you agree with what has been done to it. What do you think should be done? Thanks for your input. --Xxagile (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
When something is about as long as this is, I prefer sub-pages too. I did not see any sort of table of contents in the Index: scans, so there may be some justification to transclude it onto one page I suppose.
On the other hand, one could argue the author did not intend the start of a new chapter to share the same "space" (the same paper page) with the chapter ending just before it - that is why every new chapter starts at the top of its own page rather than in the middle or the bottom. I didn't look that closely at every chapter start - but I'm assuming that is the case here.
If so that is a valid 'counter-point' to the lack of a TOC point (in my humble opinion that is). — George Orwell III (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
The chapters do not all start at the beginning of their own chapters. Sectioning was involved so I can see where they are coming from also. I suppose all of this can go on one page, so I will delete the subpages after I touch base with Theornamentalist to see what there thinking is in the decision and also why they are changing the spacing [3] because it looks unnatural to me just using breaks instead of the blank spaces. --Xxagile (talk) 20:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Ughh... the current br line break revision comes up horrible here too. The previous edits look much cleaner to me. — George Orwell III (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I moved all pages into a single mainspace page because I could see no way to break up the chapters without introducing something new to the text, as in a contents section. After it was done, I saw that the page was too lengthy, and somewhat strenuous to read. I thought that by using <br> I could reduce the length of the page; I don't mind the tightness of the paragraphs using <br>, although I don't typically use it. For the past few days, I have been thinking of building some kind of footer that can list chapters or sections horizontally; this way it is not compromising the work and can allow for splitting up sections. I know there is some leniency with using chapters or sections to longer works even if it is not exclusively in the work; personally, I am against this. - Theornamentalist (talk) 20:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe someone with better development skills could improve this format and tighten it, but this is what I was thinking of. It does not interrupt the text and provides full navigation. - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I prefer this method also and it looks nice to me. --Xxagile (talk) 01:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
fwiw... I've added a rough draft of something similar to this up on the transcluded mainpage already. — George Orwell III (talk) 01:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm in the process of returning the work to its prior form and modifying some of the navigation. I think it might look better within the header section, as opposed to the notes; look here, let me know what you think about it. Also, for some reason I can't get chapter 1 to link properly on the main page. - Theornamentalist (talk) 03:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Unless a new parameter is introduced, I've used the sections parameter for the chapter navigation. It would not center in the notes section before because of the plain sister floating alignment. - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks very nice and it works in the section parameter. I will delete the preface page since it looks like it is unneeded. Great work on the formatting. --Xxagile (talk) 19:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

CFM vol. 1[edit]

Could you help me with the Confederate Military History Vol. 1 by setting it up like you've started? - Tannertsf (talk) 19:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Yes, I can help you. What would you like me to do specifically?--Xxagile (talk) 15:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking about making the other volumes look like the first. Would you prefer to see something like on Volume 1 or more like Vol. 4? - Tannertsf (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I prefer the look of Volume 1. I wouldn't be able to get started on it really until sometime next week as I have some school exams to get through, but I will work on them for you then. --Xxagile (talk) 20:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Sounds great. Thank you. - Tannertsf (talk) 02:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Unsuccessful confirmation of adminship[edit]

Hi Xxagile,

Your 2012 admin confirmation has been unsuccessful due to inactivity, and your admin rights are requested for removal. Thanks for all your work here; I hope to see you back here some time.

Hesperian 00:19, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Removal of sysop status[edit]

Your sysop flag has been removed following the conclusion of local inactivity procedures at [4]. Snowolf How can I help? 00:19, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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