Author talk:Preston Bruce Austin

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It is clear enough his father was w:Preston Austin: see [1] though that is not a top-notch reference. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

@Charles Matthews: At Ancestry I can see primary sources (probate, census, death reg), a couple of secondary sources (shipping, freemasonry), and someone has a private family tree. I would think that we may get in some part of Crockfords. What is it that you are wishing to identify? — billinghurst sDrewth 00:24, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Listed in 1908 Crockfords showing Acra (presuming Ghana), and some of the appointments; there is no familial relationship mentioned. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:28, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

I'd just like a reference that could be used to support the relationship on Wikidata. There is more about the older PB Austin in a book Cross and Crown in Barbados that I have library access to. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:07, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Apparently a black sheep.

"T513-3. PRESTON BRUCE5 AUSTIN (Preston Bruce,4 Wiltshire Stanton,3 Richard,2 Thomas1 ) was born in 1859. He was a student at Codrington College, Barbados, became a barrister and took Holy Orders. At his ordination in St George's Pro-Cathedral in Georgetown in 1890, the sermon was given by Archdeacon Thomas Farrar, who had married into the Austin family. Preston was an assistant master at Queen's College, Georgetown, and Assistant Curate at the Pro-Cathedral. Sometime later he was unfrocked for ‘serious misdemeanours’. These appear to have been his gambling habits. He liked playing cards and on one occasion the game lasted all night and into the next morning. Preston was due to officiate at the early morning communion, but as he was on a winning streak, he persuaded one of the other players to put on a surplice and take his place at the altar. That it was not Preston taking the communion was found out and it did not please the Bishop. This incident may have been the last straw on the camel's back that caused him to be unfrocked. Preston died on 18 October 1927 in London."

From Austin Families Register - Volume 1 p. 36. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:37, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

  • @Charles Matthews: The book that you quote is not sufficient as a reference? It show the five generations 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 where the PB in the WP article is number 4, and this as number 5. The generational, and location and circumstantial data all lines up with time and place. That seems sufficient for me to place the assessment.

Well, OK, on WP there might be a debate. What I can do is to decide we are satisfied here, and use "imported from enWS" on WD. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:18, 29 July 2016 (UTC)