Talk:2004 U.S. Presidential Debate - September 30
Kerry makes progress in Sept 30th, 2004 U.S. Presidential Debates
The Sep. 30th 2004 debate went extremely well for John Kerry. This evening, Thursday Sep 2004, John Kerry proved to the American people, for the first time since his presidential campaign, that he is not an idiot. The common perception of John Kerry, among liberals and conservatives, has been, to this point, that Kerry is incapable of delivering a clear and concise message. He has done that tonight, and immediate polls following the report show strong evidence that this may be true. MSNBC polls showed 71 percent of viewers thought that Kerry won the debate; he debated well, but not as well as that poll showed. It seems to indicate that the American populace was simply waiting for himself to display even a small degree of competence. People have been swayed to the Bush camp due to the absence of a viable alternate candidate.
The latest Gallup poll dated Sep. 28th gives Bush an 8 point lead over Kerry. This reviewer believes that this debate should turn that lead around in short order. If Kerry's performance continues through the next two debates, the election will be an assured win.
Let's see what happens. Thursday, Sept 30th, 2004.
- the above comment was originally posted by 22.214.171.124
- I, Ropers have restored the comment because this is the article's TALK page -- and while the above is certainly POV, POV is ok on talk pages and much more importantly: We have a tradition of not deleting others' posts from Talk pages, not even, as recent en:RfCs have found, from our own User_talk page. As long as you don't excessively spam the Talk page, go ahead and talk. That's what it's there for. We don't delete others' comments.
- Real player video stream of the debate (from the BBC website)
I removed this from the main article. It doesn't belong on Wikisource, which should only have a brief description of the event, and the source text. Also, websites change too quickly to be long-term useful. -- Netoholic 01:06, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The BBC appears to perpetually keep their video streams in place. I am restoring the link to the end of the document. While it might be seen as redundant by some to have the link in both the article and in Wikisource, it directly relates to and mirrors the Wikisource content in another medium and also the English Wikipedia is not at all the only Wikipedia out there anymore, so having the link here will help people from other WPs who seek to work on and/or check this article. Ropers 04:30, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
"BUSH: Actually, we've decreased funding for dealing with nuclear proliferation about 35 percent since I've been the president"
- Didn't Bush say increased, not decreased?
- Yes. I've checked the BBC video and while Bush's pronounciation is a bit blurred at that point, he did indeed say "increased". I have changed that point. Ropers 04:04, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)