Talk:United States Declaration of Independence (Dunlap Broadside)

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Edition: United States Declaration of Independence, printed by John Dunlap
Source: Dunlap Broadside of Yale U.
Contributor(s): Kalki, Kevin Myers et al.
Level of progress: 75%.svg proofread once
Proofreaders: GrafZahl

What was the order of the signatures on the Declaration of Independence? - There were, I think, two columns of signatures on the document.

Should the part about slavery, that got removed from the final draft, be noted? - go to wikipedia and you can edit it The original declaration only was signed by these two people. The one you mean is a handwritten copy (see article at

Should we include the Original Jefferson version in a subpage or something? w:User:Ccool2ax

Should there be two periods at the end of the document? "PRINTED BY JOHN DUNLAP.." unsigned comment by (talk) 08:51, 15 December 2006.

I don't think that it is a work of the US government, although it must certainly be in the public domain for a similar reason. My understanding is that 17 USC 105 merely codifies the 1834 case involving Wheaton (I think), and as such the principle would extend even if no statute provides for the declaration's being in the public domain. Nonetheless, the US government (note that the u in united is not capitalized) was not created by the Declaration of Independence, and I don't think it's accurate therefore to call the DoI a work of the federal government. unsigned comment by (talk) 15:32, 18 February 2008.

Wouldnt works like this, created by prior institutions which formed to be the US Govt., come under the umbrella of the Govt.? If there is a better way to describe pre US federation works, we could create a new similar template.

btw, are you referring to w:Wheaton v. Peters ? John Vandenberg (chat) 06:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

This transcript is confused...[edit]

...between the text of the Dunlap broadside and the text of the engrossed, signed version of the Declaration. There are important differences at the beginning and the end, and I think some minor differences in between. It appears that the text of the engrossed version was originally uploaded, but people have since edited it to conform to one version or the other without understanding the difference. I've never paid much attention to Wikisource because these kinds of inaccuracies make it an unreliable source, so I don't know whether there should be two entries (one for the Dunlap and one for the engrossed), or whether there should be one entry with the differences between the versions noted. What's the usual practice? Kevin Myers 04:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The usual practise is to transcribe each edition and host each on a separate page, and if useful, create comparison pages.
We should have one transcription at Page:Yale Dunlap Broadside.jpg
Other transcriptions might be appropriate at Page:Declaration of Independence (USA).jpg, Page:Us declaration independence.jpg, Page:Us-decl-indep.jpg, Page:USA declaration independence.jpg, Page:Declaration of Independence - USA.jpg, etc.
We have been transcribing one edition at Page:United States Statutes at Large Volume 1 - p1-22.djvu/1.
For a comparison page, see The Bell Buoy and The Bell Buoy (comparison)
John Vandenberg (chat) 05:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)