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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 11:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Doing great work[edit]

Gday Mark. You have been quietly working away and been doing really good stuff, working well in Page ns, and got transclusion to the main ns sorted, congratulations. A note: we pretty well have deprecated the use of the quality tag, as with the quality ribbon that comes with page transclusion picks up the proofread status, making the other tag redundant. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:57, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I have several questions still about transclusion and the main ns. 1) In The World's Famous Orations Vol. 1 I cannot seem to get the sectioning to work right, where one ends and another begins on the same page. 2) I am not sure about who the authors should be for some of the works in TWFO1 (such as Achilles speech, should it have Achilles or Homer?) I guess this should be on the TWFO1 discussion page? — MarkLSteadman (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Re 1) a) added a section and b) transclusion update. My recommendation is to think of the sections as chunks, so we have select a chunk on a terminating or starting page that we wish to have transcluded, and the transclusion itself grabs the chunk. 2) For Achilles, it is pretty well a legend anyway. We would try to have the author, when we know specifically. I would suggest that for this, we could utilise the notes fields to add context. ie, Legend has it that [[w:Achilles|]] spoke these words, and they are words that were recorded among the works of [[Author:Homer|]] or something like that. No exact science, so you could put more on the talk page if you think that is relevant. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Validating Goethe's Works[edit]

Thank you for validating my work! If you would prefer it, I can clean up the formatting of the line breaks in the already done section. Or I can get back to proofreading. MarkLSteadman (talk) 03:33, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Would you be willing to validate 30 pages of my work? The "In Memoriam" is very short and has been proofread and sitting for a long while. I will continue on some more validating of your work. It is a fair exchange. Kindest regards, Maury ( —William Maury Morris IITalk 03:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

I noticed that page 14 was not a good scan. I saw they have a better version now on google books. Not sure how to replace it though. MarkLSteadman (talk) 04:36, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

I remembered that page and marked it as not done (red). Do not worry over it, I can remedy it -- and I also have the page to complete it. Kind regards, Maury. —William Maury Morris IITalk 04:39, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Finished with In Memoriam. Thanks again for validating Goethe. I hope you found it interesting. MarkLSteadman (talk) 05:29, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Our adventure is over for now <smile>. It is difficult to read in detail when one is looking for formatting, spelling of German words &c. I thank you for what you have done on my behalf. Nobody else had bothered and that is often the way of things here. Formatting a page was what I saw as an error in most of what you have edited. I left a note when I validated the pages that can be seen on your "watchlist" that covers how to format a page. Pages can look excellent but when you are in edit mode you will see that an unformatted page has scrambled text. When you format the text it pulls everything into close order which can be seen after the page is saved and one looks back at the "diff" of before and after formatting a page. Thank you again for your help. Kindest regards, Maury (—William Maury Morris IITalk 05:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Authority control gadget[edit]

Gday MLS. Not sure whether you have seen in your gadgets (via preferences) that we have a gadget that places itself into the sidebar that allows us to search and easily add {{authority control}} templates to Author pages. Really useful it is. Also, if you are building many author pages, then I have a javascript file in my common.js file that queries enWP for the name and populates blank author pages. Give me a buzz if you want to know more, or would like specific detail. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Gday billinghurst. Thanks for reminding me about authority control. I meant to investigate it earlier and never quite got around to it. I would be interested in learning more about how to use javascript in common.js to make things easier. Is there any documentation available? MarkLSteadman (talk) 16:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Documentation?!? <gasp> nothing local. In the general sense we rely on the goodwill of enWP like w:Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts. We gave gadgetify numbers of them. Have a poke at user:Billinghurst/common.js but only look at the top bits where I have scripts, the bottom components are just ugly. Any admin can put them in place for you, as we have ability to write to user space. Phe's scripts (author) you will see that I just run from his user space, so it is a line of code for me (and my trust that he isn't dodgy).

I did fib, there is some documentation about some bits at Wikisource:Tools and scripts though it is a bit of a wild, untended paddock! — billinghurst sDrewth 11:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Pentagon Papers[edit]

Thanks so much for your help with the Pentagon Papers! GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:52, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm happy to help. Do feel free to add the Wikipedia / Wiktionary links to my edits. I do have one quick question. I noticed that it contains excerpts from articles / books that are copyrighted. I assume that it is ok as fair use, but I thought I should check with you. MarkLSteadman (talk) 16:59, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, that's a bit of a nasty issue... I've been allowing the smaller quotes to remain, but I've been removing the copyrighted images and large swaths of text. I posted a discussion of it on the Scriptorium, and it's definitely a grey area. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:14, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I was looking at these to proofread but couldn't figure out where the indexes are. Searched and saw you were working on things recently. I'm not technical at all, and was wondering if you could link the index at United_States_–_Vietnam_Relations,_1945–1967:_A_Study_Prepared_by_the_Department_of_Defense? As suggested on the talk out page it would assist proofreaders like me to help on the project. Cheers, Zoeannl (talk) 06:49, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

I added a list of the indices to the talk page. A bunch of them still need to be set up and possibly the scans fixed so let me know if there is one that interests you. MarkLSteadman (talk) 07:30, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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c:File:Democratic Ideals and Reality (1919).djvu[edit]

Hello. Just to let you know that the above file has been undeleted at Commons because it is now PD in the UK too. Green Giant (talk) 08:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for your recent edits to Looters of the Public Domain. I'm curious about this edit. Is there an easy-to-explain reason why having the {{sc}} template on each line is better? In general, I see a lot of more experienced Wikisourcers (or, people more familiar with web code) tidying-up after my edits, but in some cases like this, the underlying reasons are opaque to me. -Pete (talk) 20:03, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

(Short version). The rendering will change when the new parser comes out which will cause the sc template to not carry over across paragraphs.
(More technical version). Sc is implemented by a span (like e.g. the smaller template) rather than a div (like e.g. the smaller block template). You can read here [[1]] about how the different parsers change the rendering of span . This is related to a change from HTML4 semantics to HTML5 semantics happening across multiple wikis.
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Excellent, thank you -- that helps a lot. -Pete (talk) 15:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Smaller adjustment[edit]

Your edit here seems to have made text too small. I'll let you take a look. Thanks! Londonjackbooks (talk) 06:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I only made smaller per paragraph instead of across multiple paragraphs. I closed the unclosed template since that seemed to be the intent. (See the previous commit here). Feel free to remove all the smallers if it is left from before the block were put in, I was trying to match the existing styling. MarkLSteadman (talk)
Thanks. Think I found the issue. Londonjackbooks (talk) 06:42, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


That is one of my very early introduced works and it was waaaay back when we were very size limited with uploads and the scan sources were scare and sometimes plain crap—and probably so was my transcribing. If there is a better scan copy around of the edition, then we could look to re-upload to Commons, and move pages over. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:02, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 14:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 19:13, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Portal - authority control[edit]

The use of {{authority control}} isn't sanctioned yet for Portals as you've been doing. However, it may be reasonable because of the way we use Portals for corporate authorship. I would recommend updating the template's documentation and/or posting a note to the Scriptorium. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

I did see this which references portal pages. I will comment about it in general on Scriptorum per your suggestion and update the template docs. I mostly wanted to do some work to improve our publishing company pages by making sure they are tagged with the category and linked to wikidata and fill in some gaps as well as update a few of the booklists. MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Created the Scriptorium comment. MarkLSteadman (talk) 17:59, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Typos in page names[edit]

Hi Mark,

Just to let you know, if you mistype a page name on creation you should mostly be able to just move the page to the right name yourself. There's a "Move" command in the "More" dropdown menu (right next to the search field) on every page. There are some pages where moving is restricted to administrators, but most pages you should be able to fix yourself. Moving a page is usually the better way to deal with such cases for several reasons (you can do it yourself, it preserves editing history, etc.). --Xover (talk) 13:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)