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there was an expectation he would get confirmed and leave the Department.

The DAG moved another DOJ attorney into the chief of staff position, John Moran. And Pat stayed on the staff. And DAG Rosen valued his judgment and his insights, and so he kept him in the loop even though he was not technically the chief of staff at that point.

Q All right.

Anything else happen on January 2nd, or do you, in fact, sleep on it and reconvene in the morning on—

A Yeah.

Q —Sunday, January 3rd?

A Yeah, we left it. Nothing happened that night, and then it all resumed on Sunday.

Q Okay. Tell us about what happened on Sunday.

A Okay. So here's where I was, earlier, I think, conflating two different things, the 3rd and the 2nd. It was on the 3rd, the afternoon of the 3rd, that we had the prescheduled meeting with DOD relating to preparation for January 6th.

So I came in on the 3rd shortly before the 1:00 p.m. call. And DAG Rosen said to me that he had spoken to Jeff Clark apparently just shortly before this. Jeff Clark had told him that he had decided to accept the President's offer to serve as Acting Attorney General but that Jeff Clark wanted to have one more meeting with Jeff Rosen before he communicated that to the President. So that all happened on Sunday.

We then took the 1 o'clock call and we dealt with some of the January 6th preparation matters. When that call was over, I said to him, "So what do you want to do with Jeff Clark? Do you want to have a meeting with him? What do you want to do?" And he said, "I'm going to have a meeting with him." And I said, "Okay, fine. Do you