in any way.
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Q Uh-huh.
Of all the people around the President that were in these meetings or conversations, besides Mr. Clark, was there anyone else who was supportive of what the President was suggesting or seemed to be concerned about the election fraud, besides, again, the President himself in the multiple conversations and Mr. Clark?
A Not in the meetings I attended, no.
Q Was it rather the case, Mr. Donoghue, that everyone else was, like you, telling him that there was not sufficient basis to do some of the things that he contemplated—Mr. Cipollone, Mr. Philbin, Mr. Meadows, others?
A In the meetings I was in, yes, that's correct. But it was also clear that a lot of other people were talking to the President and telling him something diametrically opposed to what we were saying to him.
Q Yeah. And were those people outside of the government, as far as you could tell?
A As far as I could tell, yes. I had no interaction with them. But, yeah, you had the Kurt Olsens and other people who were clearly in contact with the President and telling him different things.
A Okay.
All right. I don't have anything else. Do you want to take a break or march right into the January 6th stuff? Do you want 5 minutes?
Mr. Andres. I just want to take a break to make sure there's nothing we want to add or not to—
Yeah.
