specific assistance that we gave him.
Q Was that the same lieutenant who was on the 1900 call when you referred to Capitol Police leadership was on that call?
A I think he sent one of his guys. I don't think he was sitting with us. I think he sent one of his assistants with us to sort of shepherd us around because he was taking care of his tactical units who were still very engaged at that point.
Q I just want to go back in time a little bit, and then we are wrapping up for my portion here. But to go back to exhibit 51, I just wanted to get some confirmation on some email traffic that was going on that day. Exhibit 51 is an email between Mr. Engel and Mr. Rosen where you're cc'd.
Mr. Rosen says to Mr. Engel: We may need your input on whether any deputizations are needed and perhaps who has the authority to authorize the National Guard for the Capitol.
Hadn't that question already been cleared up prior to January 6th with the communications with DOD?
A So the mayor had requested 350 National Guard, and that had all been approved. So those National Guard forces were on the streets of D.C. The problem was, when you then move them to the Capitol, it's a different situation. So, again, the Capitol Police have sole authority over the Capitol. We couldn't even send forces there, FBI agents or otherwise, without their permission. They have sole jurisdiction and authority over the Capitol.
Moving—the mayor herself doesn't have the authority to move the National Guard on to the Capitol grounds. So that's got to be done pursuant to a request by the Capitol Police. In order to protect Guard members, it was probably necessary for them to be deputized because, again, they don't have inherent authority to do law
