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They did that. They sent several people over within a day or two to brief the AG and others on what their conclusions were with regard to the Allied report. I was there for that briefing. I think there were maybe four people that came over from CISA. They briefed Attorney General Barr, Deputy Attorney General Rosen, Director Wray, I believe Deputy Director Bowdich, myself, and there were probably two or three other people in the room.

We went up. We heard them out. And they said essentially that the Allied report was untrustworthy, that it drew erroneous conclusions for a variety of reasons, one of which I remember being that they were using the wrong version of software, that the Allied group was using a version of software that was not actually being used in Antrim County. There were other explanations as to why this 68 percent error rate was not correct.

And so Attorney General Barr asked and produced what he called a white paper explaining why the Allied report was wrong. They ultimately produced something, I think it was on December 18th, that was forwarded to me by Ken Cuccinelli at DHS. I forwarded that to   AG Barr's secretary, and asked her to provide it to AG Barr.

But the outcome of all of this was that CISA looked at it, and they concluded that the Allied report was wrong. And, in fact, again, pursuant to that State litigation that was underway, there was a hand recount done in Antrim County. And so the hand recount removes the software, removes the hardware from the equation, and the hand recount was almost identical to the machine count. And so, for us, that made it clear that the Allied report was wrong and that the Dominion voting machines and Dominion voting software was reliable and producing reliable results.

Q Exhibit 5 in your binder, if you could take a look, is that the white paper—it starts with an email from Ken Cuccinelli to you, but is attached this very—this one-page