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think that's—it came from the President's secretary, and it seems to indicate that he asked that it be sent. That's the Antrim County report that was later found to be false. And that's all I've got. Thank you.

BY  

Q All right, Mr. Donoghue. Just a couple more things before we move on to something new.

You mentioned earlier that there was tension between Attorney General Barr and the President. Did that go back prior to the December 1st public statement about election fraud? In other words, was the tension something that stemmed from that statement or predated the statement, to the extent you know, that you observed?

I'm sorry, I'm not—for whatever reason, you're muted again.

A Okay. Can you hear me now?

Q Yes. Thank you.

A I would say it predated that statement. The Attorney General was clearly frustrated in November.

Q Uh-huh. And any idea from him or other sources as to why he was frustrated? What was the impetus of that frustration?

A I really think he'd have to answer that. I mean, I can just give you my impression from working with him every day. And it seemed—

Q Yeah. I'm interested in your impression from working with him every day.

A He was clearly frustrated. Every time he came back from the White House, he was irritated. He just was not happy with the way things were going.

And I think that was understandable. I think he was in a very difficult position; the Department was in a very difficult position. The President seemed to clearly believe that there was widespread fraud and that the election had been stolen, and he wanted