with the ultimate aim of replacing Presidential electors for former Vice President Joe Biden with electors for President Trump.[203]
Bowers had never heard of anything like that before, and Giuliani acknowledged that it had never been done. Where President Trump and Giuliani saw a potential opportunity, however, Bowers saw a fundamental problem.
As Bowers explained it, what they wanted him to do was "counter to my oath when I swore to the Constitution to uphold it."[204] And he said that to the President and Giuliani: "you are asking me to do something against my oath, and I will not break my oath.”[205] Giuliani replied: "aren't we all Republicans here? I mean, I would think you would listen a little more open to my suggestions, that we're all Republicans."[206] The pressure didn't stop with that call. On December 1st, Giuliani and Ellis got an audience with some of the most powerful Republican lawmakers in Arizona, including Bowers, Senate President Karen Fann, Senate President Pro Tempore Vince Leach, House Majority Leader and SenatorElect Warren Petersen, Senate Majority Whip Sonny Borrelli, SenatorM ichelle Ugenti-Rita, and others.[207] The Select Committee was unable to get Giuliani and Ellis' perspective on this outreach because Giuliani claimed that his communications with Bowers—who was not his client nor part of
