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(Building, like the Waterside Workers Club to me seems to be, to have qualities that some of those other buildings on the waterfront didn't. Like the building they did at the QIT, QU.. no QIT at the time, various buildings they did there) Yeah very... Community Buildings? Yeah. (And I can remember interviewing Hase and Scott when they closed the doors, the practice, they wanted to talk about the houses that I knew about and I was saying oh no, no, no, nothing, it was these later works that they wanted to talk about. But I didn't know about the Waterside Workers Club at that time and what they were showing me, it wasn't really what I wanted to hear. Did you think that .. you were involved with that, the elements of design, so .. ) I think I even had to sort of rehash the space as well but I didn't have anything to do with the design just various students sitting down doing working drawings with not a whole lot to go on you know. (But it had a finesse that I thought, that ..) Yes. Well, it was fairly fussy (Could it have been the project team?) Pardon. (Could it have been the project team?) Doing it? (Yeah). Who was in it? (No I'm just saying ... I was making a joke) Oh. I see. Oh. (Laughter from interviewers). The bloke, it was Russell that did the previous drawings that I took over, Russell? Something or rather, big tall guy, if it is important, I could find it out but and I think Campbell Scott would have been the chap involved more than Eddy I think on that one. And of course I mentioned George Henderson is mentioned here and George, fantastic bloke all round. I remember when I first went to Hase and Scott as a student, Hase and Scott and houses were very well detailed and thought out you know, all the junctions and everything, the famous quarter scale house that you probably know all about. I saw George who I had never met before in this very small room and there were only 4 of us in a room smaller than this - Eddy, Campbell, George and myself and he got in at 9 o'clock or 8:30am I think it was and sat down, put a bit of paper on and he started up on this corner. He had an 8 scale plane I think. And he would start up in this corner and he did a quarter scale detail of all all the corners, all the way round the building including internal jams and everything and produced it so quickly. Aboslutely incredible. (A drawing a day?) In my mind, well I would probably say yes, but as time goes by you sort of romance it a bit you know, it would have been 2 hours at the most you know. No, but he probably would have got the bulk of it done in a day and a bit I would think. Yeah. Excellent drafting.
(You might be able to answer a question Bob asked me once which was did Eddy Hase and Campbell Scott travel much?) Away? (Internationally? Do you know if they .. ?) (Did they go to California?) Only through the magazines I think. I don't know if they ever did go overseas. (Thats interesting isn't it.) Well it is now but they would be the first to admit that they did do a lot of reading and certainly you know, California figured a bit, and they knew all the people that are named in the book, you know the, Noutres, the this and the that, the Hugh Stubborns and so on and .. (Campbell went to school in England, so he was there before the war.) This is Campbell? (Yeah) Yes. But would have been very formative years. (Thats right). Yeah. But its not like the day where we all rush around with a camera and (I'm surpised that Eddy didn't go overseas at some point, if you don't remember). Well, to be quite honest, I can't remember him going away. (Yep). But you know he wasn't there a lot of the time, he could well have done. I mean that's an interesting question. (I haven't found any records of any, there's nothing that can shed light on that kind of activity or .. ) I think the thing about travel is that it gives you confidence, you know. You can see what other people have done and that there not neccessarily Gods you know. I came back not afraid to tackle Glen Eagles for example. Because I had been walking around Rowhampton housing scheme, the early London County Council jobs and Golden Lane and all the rest of it. So, but if I had sat here, I'd probably, you know, get very nervous, if somebody said well how about doing a 12 storey building. (laughter).