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about old religious rites is rubbish. On
first seeing David's book I fancied " Hai
down ir deri danno!? might be a myth,
but Jones seems to speak of a well-known
poem, though I have never come across
it myself. The translation is not quite
ROSAMONDA'S LAKE. 2 '
(11 S. i. 169.)
obvious : " Hai down ir deri " means THIS piece of water, at the south side of the
" Ho, let us come to the oaks "; but I do west end of the St. James's Park canal,
not understand danno or dando, which was known as Rosamond's Pond. But there
should mean " under him n or " under it." was another Rosamond's Pond of smaller
Nevertheless " hai down ir deri danno " dimensions in the Green Park, in the hollow
is very near in sound to " heigh down opposite Coventry House, and behind the
a derry clown, " and if it is, as Jones seems to Ranger's Lodge. The Ranger's Lodge,
show, a genuine song, it is perhaps worth cleared away in 1841, was formerly 150,
while to consider the possibility of a con- Piccadilly.
There is a print of the St. James's Park >nd after the original painting by Hogarth, lis painting was formerly in the collection of Henry Ralph Willett of Merly House, co. Dorset. At Willett's sale it fetched 147/.
nexion.
Hob is a genuine word in older Welsh for "pig"; cf. this passage from the ' Ma- binogi l of Math ap Mathonwy :
, . . yr ynys honn
eiryoet. Puy y henw hwy heb ef. Hobeu arglwyd. Pa ryw aniueileit yw y rei hynny.
a gigleu dyuot | j t was 6Q ^ in by 39^ -^ &nd WQ& lflflt ^ ^
possession of the
burton. Vide
le late Louisa, Lady Ash-
Austin Dobson's ' William
Vniueileit bychein gwell eu kic no chic eidon. Hogarth, 2 MCMii., p. 186. There is a large
Evans, ' Book of Hergest,' I. 60.
Lady C. Guest translates it thus :-
' Lord,' said Gwydion, ' I have heard that
are they called? ' he asked. ' Pigs (hobeu), lord.'
' And what kind of animals are they? ' ' They
folio print of the pond in the Grace
Collection, and no doubt it is represented
in some print of the park itself, though I da
not remember thus encountering it.
The pond was filled up in 1770 (see ichols and Steevens's ' Works of 1810, vol. ii. p. 284; 'Critical Review,' 1734, p. 51).
T> i i.
Ral P h s
It was a
the flesh of oxen.' ' They are small then? '
' And they change their names. Swine (moch) are
they now called.' "
are small animals, and their flesh is better than notorious spot for suicides by drowning,
1 ' as well as for assignations so much so that when it was cleaned out in 1735 the , following placard was affixed to one of the Ihe pig had probably, as David states, some trees :
symbolic significance in older Welsh poetry. This is fco give notice to all broken hearte such
Lould be glad to know if any weight can as are unable to survive the loss of their lovers,
be given to the passages from David and an d are come to a resolution to die, that an engineer
Jones on the etymological question fr m Flintshire having cruelly undertaken to dis-
H I B tur> k the waters f Rosamond's Pond in this Park, 1 gentlemen and ladies cannot be accommodated there as formerly. And whereas certain daughters of
RALPH AND HENRY THRALE. Both Ralph Eve have been since tempted to make use of the Thrale, who acquired the brewery in South- Serpentine, and other rivers, some whereof have wark and hi rn TTpnrv -TV* T-^n'f.arl +r* LQ J met with disappointments; this is therefore to MI Menry, are reputed to have certif all ^ s what80ever labouring under the ,en born at Offley, near Hitchm. There circumstances aforesaid that the basin in the Upper a note respecting the former in Boswell's or Green Park is a most commodious piece of water. Johnson l (Fitzgerald's edition); and a in admirable order, and of a depth sufficient to cynically humorous account of the latter in answer the ends of all sizes and conditions. Where-
a rt n d-^r-' ^ f Fr?? kfort Moore; re -" I?^wsa-!3ig
any one direct me to further sources of London ' vol iv p *>43
' MAOMZOH.E,.
The lines quoted by MR. MAYHEW from
BANSLITERATION. Is any guide pub- ' The Rape of the Lock? form one of many
Many authors adopt their own similar references to the pond which in the
L when dealing with foreign names, earlier part of the eighteenth century occupied
give no key to their system. the south-west corner of St. James's Park.
YGREC. | Walford gives an account of it in * Old and
