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NOTES AND QUERIES. [ii s. x. JULY n,


" CONDAMINE " (11 S. ix. 511). According to Joanne's ' Dictionnaire de la France ' (vol. ii. Paris, 1892, p. 1044), this term (with the variants " condomine " and " conta- m'ne ") conies from the Low Latin word " condomina " (i.e., cum domino), and desig- nates uncultivated land which has been handed over by its owner to some one to clear and put in order, the profits being shared between the lord and his tenant who held by this feudal tenure in s'lort, the well-known " metayer " system.

W. A. B. COOLIDGE.

Griudelwald.

"Condamine" is derived from "campus domini." A relative of mine married a gentleman named De la Condamine, a descendant of Charles Marie de la Conda- mine, and he and others have told me that this is the derivation of Condamine. Is it possible that one of the Condamines was once the property of a religious house ? I see in a gazetteer of the world that a Condamine is a town in Queensland, co. Bulwer, 240 miles west of Brisbane, and there is a river of that name there, a head stream of the River Darling. It would be interesting to find why that name was given to those Queens- land localities. M.A.OXON.

CROMWELL'S ILLEGITIMATE DAUGHTER, MRS. HARTOP (11 S. ix. 29, 94, 372, 452, 497). The difficulties raised by the Editor at 11 S. ix. 452 occurred to me before I made my inquiry about the passage in The Wolver- hampton Chronicle. If Hartop's third wife really was an illegitimate daughter of the pseudo-Protector, she probably was a very old woman when he married her, and thie marriage must have been a fortune-hunter's match. Cash to the extent of 500Z. was a considerable fortune in the seventeenth century : quite enough to live upon. That is why I drew attention to the case of Thomas Philpot, who in 1654 signed his printed petition to Cromwell " your son-in-law Thomas Philpot," with the intention, I have no doubt, of being disagreeable.

Cromwell's legitimate children are all well known, and this claim of relationship must have meant that Philpot had married an illegitimate daughter of Cromwell.

Those who are familiar with the dreadful way in which eighteenth- century writers often contrive to confuse the most ordinary issues will realize that Hartop may very well have said that his third wife was a daughter of an illegitimate daughter of Cromwell. She


may really have been Philpot's child by Cromwell's illegitimate daughter.

Thomas Philpot was " Corrector of the Press " to several very important printers up to and after the Restoration. I gave an outline biography of him in the chapter on the 'Beginnings of Journalism' in vol. vii. of ' The Cambridge History of English Literature,' with a reference note to my authorities.

The proper line of inquiry would be, in the first instarice, to find out the entries of Jonathan Hartop's marriages. Probably the earliest of these took place in London. After the Restoration Thomas Philpot was described as of " Snow Hill," London. He was M.A. of Cambridge, and had also been a^ schoolmaster in Kent, which is why I added a caution against confusing him with the Thomas Philpot or Philipot of the ' D.N.B.,' who was a Kentish man.

J. B. WILLIAMS.

A " TRAWN CHAER " (11 S. IX. 488).

Thrown chairs, i.e., chairs constructed of turned or twisted bars, were in fairly common use to the end of the sixteenth century. The original sense of the O.E. word thrawen, to twist, is retained by potters. In an inven- tory of " the howshold stuff e at Browsholme," dated 28 Dec., 1591, " in the schole cham- ber," appears, " Item, one wiker chayre and a thrawen chayre viijs." The " thrawen chayre " is still here.

I understand that a good specimen has been recently added to the collection at the Victoria and Albert Museum.

JOHN PARKER.

Browsholme Hall, near Clitheroe.

A " thrown chair," i.e., one turned in a la^he. See ' N.E.D.' under ' Thrown.'

T rp T^

Durham.

MOORE OF WINSTER (11 S. ix. 490). The late Mr. T. N. Ince contributed a number of pedigrees to The Reliquary, but I fear the one MR. SEROCOLD names is not among them. If, however, he has not referred to this excellent journal, the following information may be useful to him. On p. 45 of vol. iv. is a copy of the will of Thomas Eyre of Rowtor, dated 2 Sept., 1717. By this will the testator appoints his " trusty & well beloved Friend Robert Moore ye elder of Winster " one of his trustees. On p. 224 of vol. vi. is a list of baptisms, marriages, and burials of persons of the name of Smedley extracted from the registers of Melbourne, co. Derby. These commence in 1655, and end 1808. CHARLES DRURY.