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ii s. xii. OCT. 16, 1915.] NOTES AND QUERIES.


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KNIGHTS MADE AT THE CORONATION OF QUEEN ANNE BOLEYN, 1533. The follow- ing is a list of Knights of the Bath made at the Coronation of Queen Anne Boleyn in 1533, as given in the Letters and Papers, Henry VIII.':

Marquis of Dorset.

Earl of Derby, and other peers.

And these six commoners :

Mr. Corbett.

Mr. Wyndham.

Mr. Barkeley.

Mr. Verney of Penleye.

John Germyne.

Robert Whytneye of Gloucestershire. The list professes to be taken from Addi- tional MS. 21,116, fo. 48, and Harleian MS. 41, fo. 2.

In Shaw's ' Knights of England,' i. 149- 150, none of these six commoners is given; but Francis Weston, Thomas Arundell, John Hudleston, Thomas Poynings, Henry Savell, George Fitz Williams, John Tyndall, and Sir Henry (or John) Jermey are recorded as being then made Knights of the Bath.

Which list is the more accurate ? Who is the "Mr. Corbett" who is named in the

  • Letters and Papers ' as being then made a

K.B. ? W. G. D. FLETCHER.

Oxon Vicarage, Shrewsbury.

SONGS WANTED.

1. 'John Brown.' Where can I find a copy of a song, which was very popular in the days of the great slave war, about the hero John Brown, of Harper's Ferry fame ?

W. H.

2. I am anxious to obtain the words and also the music of an old school song, sung, I believe, as a " round," of which the beginning runs :

If I were'a tinker

I 'd make it my pride.

I have inquired for it at the chief music publishers', and also sought at the British Museum Library, without success.

THOMAS JACOB.

ROBERT KELSON THE NON.TUROR. In what year was he born ? The ' D.N.B.' gives 1665, but every biographical dictionary I have consulted, except one, gives 1656.

STAPLETON MARTIN.

The Firs, Norton, Worcester.

JOHANNES SAMBUCUS. Where could 1 see a copy of this author's ' Orationes Sex,' or, at least, the ' Oratio tertia : Laudatio Juris Civilis ' ? No copy is in the British Museum.

L. L. K.


JOHN DE WARREN, EARL BAUDAKE, OF SURREY AND SUSSEX. In Hennessy's ' Novum Repertorium,' p. 212, John de Warren, Earl Baudake, of Surrey and Sussex, is said to have been the' patron of St. Martin's, Outwich, between 1325 and 1331, and during that time to have presented six rectors, of whom Richard de Radeford was the last. Richard was nominated by Robert de Eglesfield as the first Provost of Queen's College, Oxford. 1 can find out all about John de Warren, Earl of Surrey and Sussex, but I have been unable even to guess at the meaning cf Baudake. Can anybody help me ? JOHN R. MAGRATH.

Queen's College, Oxford.

PEARS AND NETTLES. A rural theory in Surrey has it that pears ripen quickly if laid upon cut nettles. Is this so, and why T J. LANDFEAR LUCAS.

FRENCH " OF STRATFORD- ATTE-BO WE." In a French volume of English Prose Selec- tions, edited by F. Thommerl in 1841, 1 find the following :

"Le frangais qu'on parla en Angleterre 'eut bientot quelque chose d'Strange et de suranne\ dont en France on se moquait ' (M. Villemain). On ne s'en moquait pas moins en Angleterre, chez les Anglais de race ; et Chaucer, dans ses ' Canterbury Tales,' nous repre"sente une nonne, au sourire simple et modeste, qui parle francais bel et bien, d'apres l'e"cole de Stratford, mais qui ne sait pas le francais de Paris.

There was a Nonne, a prioresse

And frenche she spake t'ul faiie and fetisly, After the scole of Stratford atte Bowe For frenche of Paris was to hire unknowe." This seems to be at variance with the commonly accepted theory in England that French "of Stratf ord-atte-Bowe " is equiva- lent to homely English. Can any reader supply references or confirmation of this French theory in English criticism ?

J. ISAACS.

[The idea that " French of Stratf ord-atte-Bowe " is merely equivalent to English would seem to have originated in a mistaken reference to ' Piers Plow-

I never learned my book ;

I know no French i' faith only from far Norfolk.

Book V. 239.

It can hardly be described as the common view, which is rather that of the French author quoted, i.e., that the Stratford French was bad French, Skeat, however, insists that this also is wrong, and that" French of Stratf ord-atte-Bowe " is equivalent to Anglo-French as taught, and that at its best, in the old Benedictine nunnery at Stratford. No slight, he believes, is intended : a distinction is merely drawn between it and " French of Paris, which, to Chaucer's mind, would be, not superior, but merely different.]