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NOTES AND QUERIES.


[9 th S. I. JAN. 15, '98.


Cold Harbour. The origin of this name has been discussed ad nauseam in ' N. & Q. 7 See 2 nd S. vi. 143. 200, 317, 357 ; ix. 139, 441 ; x. 118; 3 rd S. vii. 253, 302, 344, 407, 483; viii. 38, 71, 160 ; ix. 105 ; 4 th S. i. 135. Also, as regards " Cold" as a prefix in place-names, 6 th S. xi. 122, 290, 513. There cannot be much left to say on the subject.

St. Benet Sherehog. ME. LOFTIE remarks, concerning the old City family of Sherhog or Sherehog, after which this church is, with good reason, supposed to have received its name, that the appellation probably ori- ginated in some personal peculiarity. I would venture to submit that it is merely equivalent to " sheep-shearer." W. F. PRIDEAUX.

Kingsland, Shrewsbury.

The three quotations by MR. HEELIS from Delaune's ' Angliae Metropolis ' are copied, almost word for word, from Stow's ' Survey, 5 except those portions which refer to repairs in the seventeenth century.

It is a fact that almost every historian of London, even up to our own times, has relied upon Stow for all his information as to the earlier history, and has adopted without question Stow's crudest guesses as to origins and etymologies ; indeed, it may be taken as an axiom that no statement in any work published after the sixteenth century is of the least value as a corroboration of any statement of Stow's unless it clearly appears that it is taken from a different source.

H. A. HARBEN.

It seems curious to an ordinary reader that Stow should be considered correct, as regards the initial part of the dissyllable, in his definition of St. Mary Aldermary, but incorrect in Aldgate.

Aldgate was so called from its being one of the four original gates ; Aldersgate, from its being the oldest, or older gate.* Holborn was anciently a village that sprang up near Middle Row, built on the bank of a brook called Olborn or Holborn, which flowed down the hill till it fell into the River of Wells at Holborn bridge.t This brook, I think, is shown by dotted lines in a map of the cities of London and Westminster, &c., 1707, but, strange to say, on the plan of London and Westminster, 1600, Holborn is spelt Howl- burne.J ALFRED CHAS. JONAS.

GENTLEMAN PORTER (8 th S. xii. 187, 237, 337, 438, 478; 9 th S. i. 33). There appear to

  • Burton, 'London,' 1691, pp. 13, 15.

t 'London and its Environs,' London, 1761,

' t ' A New View of London,' 1708, vol. i.


have been Master Porters or Gentlemen Por- ters as honorary officers in all fortresses. For example, two Wentworths in succession, Sir Nicholas Wentworth (time of Henry VIII.) and his son, were Chief Porters of Calais.

D.

WILLIAM WENTWORTH (9 th S. i. 7, 31). Referring to my pedigrees in 'Three Branches of the Family of Wentworth ' (1891), I find that this William may have been of the Gos- field house (ped., p. 195), if, indeed, he did not belong to one of trie Yorkshire houses. I am afraid, however, the only means of identifica- tion would be reference to the matriculation entries of Cambridge University, which might reveal his father's name, though even for that the date, 1562, may prove too early.

A very great want to genealogists at the present time is the printing and publication of the Cambridge University registers. The work has been handsomely done for Oxford by Mr. Andrew Clark and by Mr. Joseph Foster, and some years since a prospectus of a similar publication of the Cambridge regis- ters was issued, but I believe it was not proceeded with. Its achievement is much to be desired.

In regard to William Wentworth at West- minster School, I would ask whence the information is derived. There is a list of Queen's Scholars by Joseph Welch (1852); but does it go so far back as 1562 1

W. L. RUTTON.

27, Elgin Avenue, W.

WILLIAM PENN (8 th S. xii. 488). William Penn set sail for Pennsylvania from Deal in the Welcome, 1 Sept., 1682, with about one hundred persons, mostly Friends, of Sussex. This information is taken from a small ' Life of Penn,' by Miss Jane Budge (Partridge & Co., 1885 ?). There is a ' Life ' by Hep worth Dixon, which may perhaps furnish the names of the principal companions.

C. LAWRENCE FORD, B.A.

Bath.

William Penn sailed from the port of Deal in the ship Welcome (300 tons), Robert Green way commander, on 1 Sept., 1682. JOHN RADCLIFFE.

" BELLING " : " ROWING " : " WAWLING " (8 th S. xii. 366, 515). C. C. B. starts a discus- sion on human cries. I may, therefore, state that here at Longford babies do nothing but " hoot " ; horses and donkeys hoot ; so do dogs, cats, and cocks ; almost everything hoots which can make a noise at all just, in fact, as if they were all owls. However, I have heard of shouting. A few years ago a