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RECORDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION Monday MADISON .4ugvat here could not like the Executive Magistrate in England interpose by a prorogation, or dissolution. This restriction had been found pregnant with altercation in everjr State where the Constitution had established it. The House of Reps. will insert the other things in money bills, and by mak- ing them conditions of each other, destroy the deliberate liberty of the Senate. He stated the case of a Preamble to a money bill sent up by the House of Commons in the reign of Queen Anne, to the H. of Lords, in which the conduct of the displaced Ministry, who were to be impeached before the Lords, was condemned; the Commons thus extorting a prema- ture judgmt. without any hearing of the Parties to be tried, and the H. of Lords being thus reduced to the poor & disgrace- ful expedient of opposing to the authority of a law a protest on their Journals agst. its being drawn into precedent. there was any thing like Poynings law in the present case, it was in the attempt to vest the exclusive right of originating in the H. of Reps. and so far he was agst it. He should be equally so if the right were to be exclusively vested in the Senate. With regard to the pursestrings, it was to be observed that the purse was to have two strings, one of which was in the hands of the H. of Reps. the other in those of the Senate. Both houses must concur in untying, and of what importance could it be which untied first, which last. He could not con- ceive it to be any objection to the senate's preparing the bills, that they would have leisure for that purpose and would be in the habits of business. War, Commerce, & Revenue were the great objects of the Genl. Government. All of them are connected with money. The restriction in favor of the H. Represts. would exclude the Senate from originating any impor- tant bills whatever w M.�_G..!..r. ry. considered this as a part of the plan that would be much scrutinized. Taxation & representation are strongly associated in the minds of the people, and they will not agree that any but their immediate representatives shall meddle with their purses. In short the acceptance of the plan Will inevitably fail, if the Senate be not restrained from originat- ing Money bills.