User talk:Alien333

Italics

Please note that italics do not carry across line breaks. You either have to stop and restart on the next line. or (better) remove the line breaks.

Regards -- Beardo (talk) 16:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I know, it's just that it took me a little while to realize and that when, then, I tried to go back and correct myself, I missed a few. I'm pretty new at this and so I more or less learned by experience.

˜˜˜˜ Alien333 (talk) 17:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

No problem. I think most of us have learned that way. I recently learned from Wikisource:Scriptorium#De-linting.. that there is the page linked there which lists such errors. -- Beardo (talk) 18:38, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Titles on subpages

Making this change in the header of the subpages will turn Poems (Nora May French) by Nora May French into the correct Poems by Nora May French EncycloPetey (talk) 19:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok! Sorry, I'll correct it. Alien333 (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Template:asc

You may find {{{asc}} useful, especially for A.M., B.C., and roman numerals that are printed in capital small caps. Yes, you could use {{sc}} with lower-case letters, but typically books do not use lower-case letters for these things, and putting lower-case into the text with small-caps will not preserve the case when someone grabs the text using copy-paste, such as for a quote in a school paper or for quoting in a Wikipedia article or on Wikiquote. The advantage of {{asc}} is that you can write the text in the correct case and still get it to display in reduced capitals. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

OK! Alien333 (what I did and why I did it wrong) 11:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Page:Poems Barrett.djvu/134

Check your module , >><<< seems to misbehave , by throwing a supurious closing SPAN tag? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

If you are talking about the nearly-empty poem, there was a cleaner way to do it (and I corrected it), but if it's not that I don't see what you mean about that closing SPAN. As far as I can see, it only adds a </span> at the same time as adding a <span>. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Poetry collections

Thanks for completing so many small books of poetry by authors whose works we do not have, and which won't be found in most libraries.

Would you consider also doing Fiddler's Farewell (1926) by poet and violinist Leonora Speyer? (external scan) Her poetry won the Pulitzer in 1927, so it's a significant work, by a poet for whom we have no works at all. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

I could, but I'd need you to get it, as I'm not a member at Hathi and it'd be a bother to download each of the 136 pages manually.

If you are more interested by the author than the specific collection, there are two scans of A canopic jar (external scan) (external scan) available on IA, which I prefer. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 06:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Fiddler's Farewell is the Pulitzer winning work, so it's the one I'm interested in, but I cannot grab Hathi downloads either. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Poetry foundation says it's available in the Poetry magazine, which to my surprise we do not have but that is on jstor, more specifically in the issue of Jan. 1926, and the poem itself, p201-205 is there, which according to jstor is in public domain as © 1926 Poetry Foundation. I'll get at it some time soon, probably after finishing Index:Poems Shipton.djvu, but I think eventually I'll try to do the whole magazine. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 14:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Note: did she get the prize for the poem or the book? Because there appears to be a collection of the same name (136 vs. 5 pages), that is the one at Hathi, and the poem after which it appears to have been named, that is what I found. EDIT: after just looking on WP it appears to have been for the book. Once more unto the breach, then... — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 14:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

*sigh* I've given up, looks like it's Hathi or nothing. I've started taking the pages. EDIT: on top of all the rest, the preview images are scaled down. Well, 700*1000 will have to be enough, and I'm not going to go 136 times through their download dialog — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 15:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Well, there it is: Index:Fiddler's Farewell.djvu. The PNGs were acceptable at best, all pdf mergers I found (the three that let me upload 136 pages) made it terrible, for some reason the OCR on djvu conversion appeared not to work, and it has two watermarks, but it's there. As I said, will get at it at some point during next week. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 15:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey It's done. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 10:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Transclusion in page order

Hi @Alien333,

As EncycloPetey said above, many thanks for completing so many poems. However, in the case of Poems (Baldwyn), I am inclined to believe the transclusion should be in page order, regardless of the ordering in the table of contents. I am in no way asking you to change it, although at some point, someone with greater concerns about the matter may add an (what I would consider "loud") template on the main page indicating it doesn't conform to Wikisource standards, unless things have changed since the last time I recall this happening. At the very least, information for the future. As an aside, if you are interested in having some of your work validated, especially more famous works (like the Fiddler's Farewell) mentioned above, we would be happy to have it included in the Monthly Challenge, if you are okay with that. Up to you though.

Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Fiddler's Farewell is more or less an exception and at request, most of the time I just do random books called Poems. Feel free to include anything you want. I have collections from ~20 content pages to >400, so there's probably something of the right size.

On TOC's, I've already encountered the same problem with Poems (Cromwell), so if correction there is it would have to be done there too. I made that decision on the basis that it would be awkward to not be able to navigate in the sense of the TOC (and maybe also out of laziness of having to scroll through the TOC to find the right capitalization of the titles). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 20:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Given how far you have already progressed with Fiddler's Farewell, I might just leave it as is. You are ever so efficient with the use of those ppoem templates.

I suspect that the previous/next sections of the header were to imply flipping forward and backward through the actual pages of the text (just like a real book!), but in terms of sensible, I don't see a great deal of difference. I guess just consider this a heads up then, unless someone else has graver concerns. Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 23:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

We'll probably be able to include Fiddler's Farewell quite soon.

(Honestly, regarding ppoem, most of the work of figuring when to put what end/start is done by a script of mine nowadays, alongside with indenting.) — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 07:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

It's done, so you can include it. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 10:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)