Portal talk:Constitutional documents

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Portal	Constitutional documents
Classification	KA
Class	K: Law
Subclass	A: General law
Classifier	AdamBMorgan
Reviewer
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Inclusion

• Nazi Constitution link removed - the reason you cant find the text is that it never existed - the constitution in the third reich was still that of weimar; it was just ignored.

Why is Sealand included in the list? 85.124.176.91 15:54, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Categories?

I am confused about this categorisation system? Are the constitutions and the documents supposed to be put in Categories or is the link <Wikisource:Constitutional documents enough? Gryffindor 23:48, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

It's a tough call. Many people like automatically generated lists of works, so put a category on the page that is identical to a page in the "Wikisource:" namespace that also lists it. I dislike this practice, because it is impossible to add any sort of comments to the categorical listing, while the manual lists offer much more in this respect. I think the manual lists are fine and categories should only be used if it will add and be beneficial to the page. But don't be surprised if people go back and add those lists again.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 00:16, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Intro to the German Imperial Constitution

I've found this intro in German. Could if be translated and added to the beginning?

Gesetz betreffend die Verfassung des Deutschen Reiches. vom 16. April 1871

Wir Wilhelm, von Gottes Gnaden Deutscher Kaiser, König von Preußen etc. verordnen hiermit im Namen des Deutschen Reichs, nach erfolgter Zustimmung des Bundesrathes und des Reichstages, was folgt:

§ 1

An die Stelle der zwischen dem Norddeutschen Bunde und den Großherzogthümern Baden und Hessen vereinbarten Verfassung des Deutschen Bundes (Bundesgesetzblatt vom Jahre 1870, S. 627 ff.), sowie der mit den Königreichen Bayern und Württemberg über den Beitritt zu dieser Verfassung geschlossenen Verträge vom 23. und 25. November 1870 (Bundesgesetzblatt 1871, S. 9 ff. und vom Jahre 1870, S. 654 ff.) tritt die beigefügte

Verfassung-Urkunde für das Deutsche Reich

§ 2

1. Die Bestimmungen in Artikel 80 der in § 1 gedachten Verfassung des Deutschen Bundes, unter III. § 8 des Vertrages mit Bayern vom 23. November 1870, in Artikel 2 Nr. 6 des Vertrages mit Württemberg vom 25. November 1870 über die Einführung der im Norddeutschen Bunde ergangenen Gesetze in diesen Staaten bleiben in Kraft.

2. Die dort bezeichneten Gesetze sind Reichsgesetze. Wo in denselben von dem Norddeutschen Bunde, dessen Verfassung, Gebiet, Mitgliedern oder Staaten, Indigenat, verfassungsmäßigen Organen, Angehörigen, Beamten, Flagge usw. die Rede ist, sind das Deutsche Reich und dessen entsprechende Beziehungen zu verstehen.

3. Dasselbe gilt von denjenigen im Norddeutschen Bunde ergangenen Gesetzen, welcher in der Folge in einem der genannten Staaten eingeführt werden.

§ 3

Die Vereinbarungen in dem zu Versailles am 15. November 1870 aufgenommenen Protokolle (Bundesgesetzblatt vom Jahre 1870, S. 650 ff.), in der Verhandlung zu Berlin vom 25. November 1870 (Bundesgesetzblatt vom Jahre 1870, S. 657), dem Schlußprotokolle vom 23. November 1870 (Bundesgesetzblatt vom Jahre 1871, S. 23 ff.), sowie unter IV. des Vertrages mit Bayern vom 23. November 1870 (aaO. S. 21 ff.) werden durch dieses Gesetz nicht berührt.

Urkundlich unter Unserer Höchsteigenhändigen Unterschrift und beigedrucktem Kaiserlichen Insiegel.

Gegeben Berlin, den 16. April 1871.

Wilhelm

Fürst v. Bismarck

Under the section United States--Constitution of Louisiana

I would like to add the Constitution of the State of Louisiana to the list of state constitutions in this section. Unless someone objects. --Avazina 11:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Sealand removed

Constitution of the Principality of Sealand The text is not trustworthy (see discussion there) and sealand is not a recognised nation. --89.56.143.83 10:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The recognition of the nation is an orthogonal topic to the authenticity & provenance of our edition of its constitution. The recognition of the document by other nation states is of little consequence to Wikisource, except that it might be categorised separately. You are welcome do add clarity to our classification system, but please do not degrade it by simply removing works from reasonable categories. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 11:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I've moved it to a new heading, "Constitutions of unrecognized entities". This still does not address any questions regarding textual validity or its copyright. Eclecticology 18:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

The new classification by Eclecticology as "unrecognized entity" is an excellent solution for Wikisource:Constitutional_documents, but Sealand does not belong to Category:National constitutions. See Talk:Constitution_of_the_Principality_of_Sealand (89.56.143.83) --89.56.176.226 15:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Norwegian Constitution

There is an official translation of the original (1814) Norwegian Constitution available from the website of the Norwegian National Library: [1] It can be downloaded as a PDF and could be used as a source for including, also, the original version. V85 (talk) 11:31, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Organizational constitutions

I just added Constitution of the Lowell Factory Girls Association to Wikisource, but did not list it on this portal. I'm unsure where or if constitutions of organizations and other such non-national entities would fit into the portal. djr13 (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Insert constitution of Pakistan

why not added to list yet?--Janjua Rajpout (talk) 21:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Government

The 1954 London constitution conference Ella kyrian (talk) 09:48, 26 October 2019 (UTC)