Talk:Grimm's Household Tales

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progress[edit]

The existing pages are from three sources: Hunt (1884), Edwardes/Taylor (1902), and Taylor (unknown). The first two had scans, and were used to replace the tales under their own titles with versions pages and redirects. The variants on Taylor are now being moved to Index:Grimm Goblins (1876).djvu, I can do no more to preserve the pages without a source. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 11:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

[publication question][edit]

What is the date of publication for this? An 1884 publication of these texts show them to be a translation ONLY of Margaret Hunt.

See gutenberg text: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext04/grimm10a.txt

As per Gutenberg.org:

Household Tales by brothers Grimm, translated by Margaret Hunt

These fairy tales by brothers Grimm are based on the original 1884 translation "Household Tales" of Margaret Hunt.

Noted, until its checked I'll mark it as unknown. Cygnis insignis (talk) 15:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Double redirects[edit]

This work has a growing list of double redirects upon every refresh of the Special Page for double redirects. Can someone please address them? George Orwell III (talk) 18:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for that, but there will be lots of little and large moves involved. The whole business is complicated by existing and new versions, and that I want to make sure the page history is preserved. Doing them all will be much more efficient when the titles stabilise. Is is possible to ignore them for a little while? I could give you a break from that special page while the havoc is occurring. cygnis insignis 19:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Just to clarify:
  1. Raven (Grimm) (edit) →‎ The Raven (Grimm) →‎ Grimm's Fairy Tales/The Raven

The Raven (Grimm) is already ambiguous, it will become a version page and every permutation of that title will redirect to that. cygnis insignis 19:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Of course it can, and should be in light of your explaination, ignored.
As long as folks working on these pages are aware of the unfinished moves there is no problem with that list growing on my end at all. Can't speak for anybody else though. I may have touched a few last week - just restore/edit as you see fit (sorry about that but there was no 'work-in progress' tag or anything to go by hint, hint). George Orwell III (talk) 22:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

sorting[edit]

A list of tales:

  Versions Original
1 The Frog-King, or Iron Henry Der Froschkönig oder der eiserne Heinrich
2 Cat and Mouse in Partnership Katze und Maus in Gesellschaft
3 Our Lady's Child Marienkind
4 The Story of the Youth Who
Went Forth to Learn What Fear Was
Gut Kegel- und Kartenspiel /
Märchen von einem, der auszog
das Fürchten zu lernen
5 The Wolf and the Seven Young Kids Der Wolf und die sieben jungen Geißlein
6 Faithful John
7 The Good Bargain
8 The Strange Musician
9 The Twelve Brothers
10 The Pack of Ragamuffins
11 Little Brother and Little Sister
12 Rapunzel
13 The Three Little Men in the Forest
14 The Three Spinning Women
15 Hänsel and Grethel
16 The Three Snake-Leaves
17 The White Snake
18 Straw, Coal, and Bean
19 The Fisherman and His Wife
20 The Brave Little Tailor
21 Cinderella
22 The Riddle
23 The Mouse, the Bird, and the Sausage
24 Mother Holle
25 The Seven Ravens
26 Little Red-Cap
27 The Bremen Town Musicians
28 The Singing Bone
29 The Devil with the Three Golden Hairs
30 Little Louse and Little Flea
31 The Girl without Hands
32 Clever Hans
33 The Three Languages
34 Clever Elsie
35 The Tailor in Heaven
36 The Wishing-table, the Gold-ass,
and the Cudgel in the Sack
37 Thumbling
38 The Wedding of Mrs. Fox
39 The Elves
40 The Robber Bridegroom
41 Herr Korbes
42 The Godfather
43 Frau Trude
44 Godfather Death
45 Thumbling as Journeyman [Thumbling's Travels]
46 Fitcher's Bird [Fowler's Fowl]
47 The Juniper-Tree
48 Old Sultan
49 The Six Swans
50 Little Briar-Rose
51 Foundling-Bird
52 King Thrushbeard
53 Little Snow-White
54 The Knapsack, the Hat, and the Horn
55 Rumpelstiltskin
56 Sweetheart Roland
57 The Golden Bird
58 The Dog and the Sparrow
59 Frederick and Catherine
60 The Two Brothers
61 The Little Peasant
62 The Queen Bee
63 The Three Feathers
64 The Golden Goose
65 Allerleirauh [All-Kinds-Of-Fur]
66 The Hare's Bride
67 The Twelve Huntsmen
68 The Thief and His Master
69 Jorinda and Joringel
70 The Three Children of Fortune
71 How Six Men Got On in the World
72 The Wolf and the Man
73 The Wolf and the Fox
74 The Fox and His Cousin
75 The Fox and the Cat
76 The Pink
77 Clever Grethel
78 The Old Man and His Grandson
79 The Water-Nix
80 The Death of the Little Hen
81 Brother Lustig
82 Gambling Hansel
83 Hans in Luck
84 Hans Married
85 The Gold-Children
86 The Fox and the Geese (End of volume 1)
87 The Poor Man and the Rich Man
88 The Singing, Springing Lark
89 The Goose-Girl
90 The Young Giant
91 The Gnome
92 The King of the Golden Mountain
93 The Raven
94 The Peasant's Clever Daughter
95 Old Hildebrand
96 The Three Little Birds
97 The Water of Life
98 Dr. Know-All
99 The Spirit in the Bottle
100 The Devil's Sooty Brother
101 Bearskin
102 The Willow-Wren and the Bear
103 Sweet Porridge
104 Wise Folks
105 Stories about Snakes
106 The Poor Miller's Boy and the Cat
107 The Two Travellers
108 Hans the Hedgehog
109 The Shroud
110 The Jew among Thorns
111 The Skilful Huntsman
112 The Flail from Heaven
113 The Two Kings' Children
114 The Cunning Little Tailor
115 The Bright Sun Brings It to Light
116 The Blue Light
117 The Wilful Child
118 The Three Army Surgeons
119 The Seven Swabians
120 The Three Apprentices
121 The King's Son Who Feared Nothing
122 Donkey Cabbages
123 The Old Woman in the Wood
124 The Three Brothers
125 The Devil and His Grandmother
126 Ferdinand the Faithful
127 The Iron Stove
128 The Lazy Spinner
129 The Four Skilful Brothers
130 One-Eye, Two-Eyes, and Three-Eyes
131 Fair Katrinelje and Pif Paf Poltrie
132 The Fox and the Horse
133 The Shoes that Were Danced to Pieces
134 The Six Servants
135 The White Bride and the Black One
136 Iron John
137 The Three Black Princesses
138 Knoist and His Three Sons
139 The Maid of Brakel
140 Domestic Servants
141 The Lambkin and the Little Fish
142 Simeli Mountain
143 Going A-Travelling
144 The Donkey
145 The Ungrateful Son
146 The Turnip
147 The Old Man Made Young Again
148 The Lord's Animals and the Devil's
149 The Beam
150 The Old Beggar-Woman
151 The Three Sluggards
151* The Twelve Idle Servants
152 The Shepherd Boy
153 The Star-Money
154 The Stolen Farthings
155 Brides on their Trial
156 Odds and Ends
157 The Sparrow and His Four Children
158 The Story of Schlauraffen Land
[The Tale of Cockaigne]
159 The Ditmarsh Tale of Wonders
160 A Riddling Tale
161 Snow-White and Rose-Red (Hunt)
162 The Wise Servant
163 The Glass Coffin
164 Lazy Harry
165 The Griffin
166 Strong Hans
167 The Peasant in Heaven
168 Lean Lisa
169 The Hut in the Forest
170 Sharing Joy and Sorrow
171 The Willow-Wren
172 The Sole [The Flounder]
173 The Bittern and Hoopoe
174 The Owl
175 The Moon
176 The Duration of Life
177 Death's Messengers
178 Master Pfriem
179 The Goose-Girl at the Well
180 Eve's Various Children
181 The Nixie of the Mill-Pond
182 The Little Folks' Presents
183 The Giant and the Tailor
184 The Nail
185 The Poor Boy in the Grave
186 The True Sweetheart [The True Bride]
187 The Hare and the Hedgehog
188 The Spindle, the Shuttle, and the Needle
189 The Peasant and the Devil
190 The Crumbs on the Table
191 The Sea-Hare
192 The Master Thief
193 The Drummer
194 The Ear of Corn
195 The Grave Mound
196 Old Rinkrank
197 The Crystal Ball
198 Maid Maleen
199 The Boot of Buffalo Leather
200 The Golden Key
  1. Children's Legends
    1. Legend 1: St. Joseph in the Forest
    2. Legend 2: The Twelve Apostles
    3. Legend 3: The Rose
    4. Legend 4: Poverty and Humility Lead to Heaven
    5. Legend 5: God's Food
    6. Legend 6: The Three Green Twigs
    7. Legend 7: Our Lady's Little Glass
    8. Legend 8: The Aged Mother
    9. Legend 9: The Heavenly Wedding
    10. Legend 10: The Hazel Branch

another list that did not accord with the contents of this volume:

Fairy Tales[edit]