The existing pages are from three sources: Hunt (1884), Edwardes/Taylor (1902), and Taylor (unknown). The first two had scans, and were used to replace the tales under their own titles with versions pages and redirects. The variants on Taylor are now being moved to Index:Grimm Goblins (1876).djvu , I can do no more to preserve the pages without a source. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 11:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC) [ reply ]
What is the date of publication for this?
An 1884 publication of these texts show them to be a translation ONLY of Margaret Hunt.
See gutenberg text:
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext04/grimm10a.txt
As per Gutenberg.org:
Household Tales by brothers Grimm, translated by Margaret Hunt
These fairy tales by brothers Grimm are based on the original
1884 translation "Household Tales" of Margaret Hunt.
Noted, until its checked I'll mark it as unknown. Cygnis insignis (talk ) 15:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC) [ reply ]
This work has a growing list of double redirects upon every refresh of the Special Page for double redirects . Can someone please address them? George Orwell III (talk ) 18:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC) [ reply ]
Apologies for that, but there will be lots of little and large moves involved. The whole business is complicated by existing and new versions, and that I want to make sure the page history is preserved. Doing them all will be much more efficient when the titles stabilise. Is is possible to ignore them for a little while? I could give you a break from that special page while the havoc is occurring. cygnis insignis 19:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC) [ reply ]
Just to clarify:
Raven (Grimm) (edit) → The Raven (Grimm) → Grimm's Fairy Tales/The Raven
The Raven (Grimm) is already ambiguous, it will become a version page and every permutation of that title will redirect to that. cygnis insignis 19:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC) [ reply ]
Of course it can, and should be in light of your explaination, ignored.
As long as folks working on these pages are aware of the unfinished moves there is no problem with that list growing on my end at all. Can't speak for anybody else though. I may have touched a few last week - just restore/edit as you see fit (sorry about that but there was no 'work-in progress' tag or anything to go by hint, hint ). George Orwell III (talk ) 22:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC) [ reply ]
A list of tales:
Versions
Original
1
The Frog-King, or Iron Henry
Der Froschkönig oder der eiserne Heinrich
2
Cat and Mouse in Partnership
Katze und Maus in Gesellschaft
3
Our Lady's Child
Marienkind
4
The Story of the Youth Who Went Forth to Learn What Fear Was
Gut Kegel- und Kartenspiel /Märchen von einem, der auszog das Fürchten zu lernen
5
The Wolf and the Seven Young Kids
Der Wolf und die sieben jungen Geißlein
6
Faithful John
7
The Good Bargain
8
The Strange Musician
9
The Twelve Brothers
10
The Pack of Ragamuffins
11
Little Brother and Little Sister
12
Rapunzel
13
The Three Little Men in the Forest
14
The Three Spinning Women
15
Hänsel and Grethel
16
The Three Snake-Leaves
17
The White Snake
18
Straw, Coal, and Bean
19
The Fisherman and His Wife
20
The Brave Little Tailor
21
Cinderella
22
The Riddle
23
The Mouse, the Bird, and the Sausage
24
Mother Holle
25
The Seven Ravens
26
Little Red-Cap
27
The Bremen Town Musicians
28
The Singing Bone
29
The Devil with the Three Golden Hairs
30
Little Louse and Little Flea
31
The Girl without Hands
32
Clever Hans
33
The Three Languages
34
Clever Elsie
35
The Tailor in Heaven
36
The Wishing-table, the Gold-ass, and the Cudgel in the Sack
37
Thumbling
38
The Wedding of Mrs. Fox
39
The Elves
40
The Robber Bridegroom
41
Herr Korbes
42
The Godfather
43
Frau Trude
44
Godfather Death
45
Thumbling as Journeyman [Thumbling's Travels]
46
Fitcher's Bird [Fowler's Fowl]
47
The Juniper-Tree
48
Old Sultan
49
The Six Swans
50
Little Briar-Rose
51
Foundling-Bird
52
King Thrushbeard
53
Little Snow-White
54
The Knapsack, the Hat, and the Horn
55
Rumpelstiltskin
56
Sweetheart Roland
57
The Golden Bird
58
The Dog and the Sparrow
59
Frederick and Catherine
60
The Two Brothers
61
The Little Peasant
62
The Queen Bee
63
The Three Feathers
64
The Golden Goose
65
Allerleirauh [All-Kinds-Of-Fur]
66
The Hare's Bride
67
The Twelve Huntsmen
68
The Thief and His Master
69
Jorinda and Joringel
70
The Three Children of Fortune
71
How Six Men Got On in the World
72
The Wolf and the Man
73
The Wolf and the Fox
74
The Fox and His Cousin
75
The Fox and the Cat
76
The Pink
77
Clever Grethel
78
The Old Man and His Grandson
79
The Water-Nix
80
The Death of the Little Hen
81
Brother Lustig
82
Gambling Hansel
83
Hans in Luck
84
Hans Married
85
The Gold-Children
86
The Fox and the Geese (End of volume 1)
87
The Poor Man and the Rich Man
88
The Singing, Springing Lark
89
The Goose-Girl
90
The Young Giant
91
The Gnome
92
The King of the Golden Mountain
93
The Raven
94
The Peasant's Clever Daughter
95
Old Hildebrand
96
The Three Little Birds
97
The Water of Life
98
Dr. Know-All
99
The Spirit in the Bottle
100
The Devil's Sooty Brother
101
Bearskin
102
The Willow-Wren and the Bear
103
Sweet Porridge
104
Wise Folks
105
Stories about Snakes
106
The Poor Miller's Boy and the Cat
107
The Two Travellers
108
Hans the Hedgehog
109
The Shroud
110
The Jew among Thorns
111
The Skilful Huntsman
112
The Flail from Heaven
113
The Two Kings' Children
114
The Cunning Little Tailor
115
The Bright Sun Brings It to Light
116
The Blue Light
117
The Wilful Child
118
The Three Army Surgeons
119
The Seven Swabians
120
The Three Apprentices
121
The King's Son Who Feared Nothing
122
Donkey Cabbages
123
The Old Woman in the Wood
124
The Three Brothers
125
The Devil and His Grandmother
126
Ferdinand the Faithful
127
The Iron Stove
128
The Lazy Spinner
129
The Four Skilful Brothers
130
One-Eye, Two-Eyes, and Three-Eyes
131
Fair Katrinelje and Pif Paf Poltrie
132
The Fox and the Horse
133
The Shoes that Were Danced to Pieces
134
The Six Servants
135
The White Bride and the Black One
136
Iron John
137
The Three Black Princesses
138
Knoist and His Three Sons
139
The Maid of Brakel
140
Domestic Servants
141
The Lambkin and the Little Fish
142
Simeli Mountain
143
Going A-Travelling
144
The Donkey
145
The Ungrateful Son
146
The Turnip
147
The Old Man Made Young Again
148
The Lord's Animals and the Devil's
149
The Beam
150
The Old Beggar-Woman
151
The Three Sluggards
151*
The Twelve Idle Servants
152
The Shepherd Boy
153
The Star-Money
154
The Stolen Farthings
155
Brides on their Trial
156
Odds and Ends
157
The Sparrow and His Four Children
158
The Story of Schlauraffen Land [The Tale of Cockaigne]
159
The Ditmarsh Tale of Wonders
160
A Riddling Tale
161
Snow-White and Rose-Red (Hunt)
162
The Wise Servant
163
The Glass Coffin
164
Lazy Harry
165
The Griffin
166
Strong Hans
167
The Peasant in Heaven
168
Lean Lisa
169
The Hut in the Forest
170
Sharing Joy and Sorrow
171
The Willow-Wren
172
The Sole [The Flounder]
173
The Bittern and Hoopoe
174
The Owl
175
The Moon
176
The Duration of Life
177
Death's Messengers
178
Master Pfriem
179
The Goose-Girl at the Well
180
Eve's Various Children
181
The Nixie of the Mill-Pond
182
The Little Folks' Presents
183
The Giant and the Tailor
184
The Nail
185
The Poor Boy in the Grave
186
The True Sweetheart [The True Bride]
187
The Hare and the Hedgehog
188
The Spindle, the Shuttle, and the Needle
189
The Peasant and the Devil
190
The Crumbs on the Table
191
The Sea-Hare
192
The Master Thief
193
The Drummer
194
The Ear of Corn
195
The Grave Mound
196
Old Rinkrank
197
The Crystal Ball
198
Maid Maleen
199
The Boot of Buffalo Leather
200
The Golden Key
Children's Legends
Legend 1: St. Joseph in the Forest
Legend 2: The Twelve Apostles
Legend 3: The Rose
Legend 4: Poverty and Humility Lead to Heaven
Legend 5: God's Food
Legend 6: The Three Green Twigs
Legend 7: Our Lady's Little Glass
Legend 8: The Aged Mother
Legend 9: The Heavenly Wedding
Legend 10: The Hazel Branch
another list that did not accord with the contents of this volume: