User talk:Philosopher

My Golden Bengal

Hello,

If the translation is by Tagore, which is quite probable, it is in the public domain in USA because it was published before 1923, and in India, because Tagore died more than 60 years ago. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Bill of Rights Discussion

I agree. If we wish to talk about how the amendments were introduced, we would include all 12. The actual Bill of Rights, however, is only the first ten Amendments.

The ACTUAL Bill of Rights to the Constitution of the United States is the document proffered to the states for Ratification. The fact that the first two articles (Article the First and Article the Second) were either never ratified, or were ratified late in the game (1992 Article the Second became the 27th Amendment), does not matter for purposes of inclusion to the encyclopedic scholarly article on the document known as The Bill of Rights. That Bill of Rights has its own preamble that explains why the articles were included. There are very many legitimate sources (the Federalist Papers and the Anti Federalist responses are but two examples of legitimate secondary sources of veracity for this). In addition Madison, Jefferson, and Hamilton themselves along with the likes of Patrick Henry among others helped describe these additional twelve articles in numerous treatise on the subject. Omitting Articles because they were not ratified by the states is as good a way as I know to mislead the reader who comes to see the text that his forebears wrote. Would you change the text of Milton or of Shelley or of Byron? Then when presenting an whole document or one that purports to be whole one must present the ENTIRE document. Warts and all. 47.35.201.197 21:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)