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Stewards' request[edit]

Hi, I had to call on a steward like you because the Korean steward who globally blocked my account doesn't want to listen to what I had to say and I'm afraid he could globally blocked my IP address too.

I'm an Italian user. I think you already know about the noted Polish LTA "Wikinɡer", don't you? Well, he's currently vandalizing also it.wikipedia. He's been vandalizing pages and talk pages about robots since over a year. He both uses open proxies and sockpuppets to do so, which are always blocked short after the vandalisms. About one year ago I registered an account, JoyBiII, in order to help Italian sysops fighting him. I've always been logging in using my Italian Internet connection, which provides 2 IP ranges, 5.170.0.0/16 and 5.171.0.0/16. I'm sure you have the tools to check my recent logs and verify what I've just said. I've never been logging in from proxies or from a Polish IP address.

A week ago I was reverting Wikinɡer in it.wikipedia as usual, because after months of absence he decided to come back some weeks ago. Can you guess what happened? The steward I've talked about above, -revi, has globaly blocked my account because... I'm Wikinɡer! I couldn't believe it when I read the reason. He's even a steward and a checkuser in login.wikimedia, and he didn't even check before doing it. There was also an Italian sysop who committed the same mistake and blockd my account in it.wikipedia without listening to what I had to say about that, but last year I've already been speaking with other Italian sysops who acknowledged my good faith and my deniability, they could talk to him and make him understand he just mistook me for Wikinɡer. However, as long as my global account is blocked that would be useless.

I'd like to ask you to please check that my account JoyBiII has nothing to do with Wikinɡer, with his proxies and his socks, even if he registered also a few socks with a name similar to mine, that is JoyBiil, JoyBiiII and JoyByll. Please, verify my innocente and unblock my account, that -revi should be told to pay more attention when he globally blocks somebody because he may make mistakes as he did in this case.

Thank you! 5.170.47.88 10:03, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

In this kind of environment it is difficult to know who is really who, unless we all had to use our real names and have photos of ourselves on our user pages. The account you refer to has not been globally locked, nor locally blocked, nor made any edits. Please check your username is correctly spelt. Green Giant (talk) 02:23, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

It is correctly spelled, the global account is the following: [1]. I meant that it's impossible that an Italian Internet connection like mine can be used from Poland; no preventive check was done before blocking my account and that's why it was mistaken for one of Wikinɡer's even if it was always used to undo his edits. 5.170.47.254 08:44, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Excuse me, could you give me a reply, please? Even if you just can't or don't want to help me, please tell me, but I hope that you, a stweard, will give me a hand about this misunderstanding concerning my blocked account. 5.170.47.46 19:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm not ignoring you but I have multiple issues to deal with both on-wiki and off-wiki, and cannot focus entirely on your difficulties. I note that you have asked at least one other steward for help (purely by coincidence). Have you had any response from them? Green Giant (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, sorry for being insistent with you. If it's just a matter of time I'll wait, there's no urgence to prove my account isn't related to that vandal. So far only you gave a reply to my help request, so thank you for your time. 5.170.47.88 20:22, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Excuse me, is it really just a matter of time or have you left the discussion? 5.170.47.159 07:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

It really is a matter of time. Whilst I’m committed to the work of wikis, my priority is my family, job, and financial obligations - nothing I do here will pay my mortgage or my utility bills or buy food for my family. Before I can form a conclusion on your request, I need to look at all the evidence, including but not limited to your contribution history. 49 edits are not easily reviewed, especially when I speak very little Italian. I also need to consult with other stewards and administrators, which is not something that happens very quickly, because they have their own priorities too. All I can confirm is that I’m still looking through your request. --Green Giant (talk) 10:32, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

In this case, thank you again. Please look at all the evidences and consult with other stewards and sysops, this will just confirm better my innocence. Also consider the fact that I wrote perfect Italian when talking with Italian sysops, which should exclude I'm a Polish psycho if my logs and my reverts of that troll's edits weren't sufficient. I won't disturb you again, I'll just wait for your future answer. 5.170.47.205 17:25, 26 June 2019 (UTC)