The Chairman. Your Joint Legislative Committee of New York has done a very fine job.
Mr. Freedman. They have done a great job, but they are not living up to the laws that have been passed; nobody is enforcing them.
The Chairman. You mean locally?
Mr. Freedman. That is right. This tie-in law, they should have a certain department to follow it up and go out and check and bring these people to court and see that they do the right thing,
Of course, I think this law has only been passed ree anitly, so we will be patient and give them a little time toor erie
The Chairman. There has to be a period of education after every law is passed.
Mr. Freedman. That is right. There should be some lew with teeth in it about these books, and everything else pertaiming to these juvenile delinquencies, aud get atter the printers s. They ure s the ones. Tf they will be told they ean 7. print, they wouldn't.
It 38 like counterfeiters, The United States Counter feiting Depart- meni is always ufter the ones that make the plates and do the | printing. That is where you will hit home here. Get after the ones that print it,and they will cet after the ones that want them to print it,
Mr. Beaser. You don't think it is the publishers?
Mr. Freedman. Well, the publisher has something to do with it. Vhey are the ones that are orderi ing it, but if the printer wouldn't want io print it and the publisher won't be able to get. one, they won't print it.
The Chairman. If the publisher couldn't get printers it would be tough.
Mr. Freedman. Yes.
The Chairman. That is the reason [ asked Assemb] yman Fitzpat- rick the question as to whether the unions could not help in this field.
Mr. Freedman. They could. 1 believe if you went to the head of the legitimate unions, end I think the pr inting wnion is one of our legitimate unions, and explained the situation to them, I think they would cooperate and work with you.
The Chairman. I understand your local here is called the New York Typographical Union; is that correct?
Mr. Freedman. That is right, si. I think they would cooperate.
The Chairman. I think this committee will probably solicit their aid.
Mr. Freedman. I think you will be doing a good thing. They will be a creat help to you.
The Chairman. Mr. Freedman, we are grateful for your presence here thismorning. Jecommend you for your courage.
Mr. Freedman. Thank you very much.
The Chairman. Counsel will call the next witness.
Mr. Beaser. Mr. Harold Chamberlain.
The Chairman. You do not mind being sworn?
Mr. Chamberlain. Not at all.
The Chairman. Do you solemnly swear that the evidence you are about to give before this subcommittee of the Committee on tlie Judi- ciary of the United States Senate will be the truth, the whole tr uth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God ?
Mr. Chamberlain. I do.
The Chairman. Counsel, you may proceed.
