the mansion. What's your ETA?"
I'm trying to understand, what was the purpose of having the Oath Keepers go to the governor's mansion with you?
A So I said, "Can we meet up after the governor's mansion?" I didn't invite them to the governor's mansion. He then later says in this that he's going to show up.
We had said earlier that day at the State Capitol, we said let's go protest at night at the governor's—outside the governor's mansion, peacefully and legally. And so everyone who heard my voice would have heard that. That means I don't think I had met Stewart Rhodes even at this point.
QOkay. So if I were to ask Mr. Steward Rhodes if you invited him to the governor's mansion on November 21st, it's your testimony here today that he would say no?
A My testimony is I made a universal public call for people to come to the mansion. I did not make specific calls that I recall.
Q Okay. So I want to think big picture here for a second. And you've mentioned that you—Stop the Steal, I say you, but I mean Stop the Steal had thrown rallies at State capitols after the election, leading up to January 6th. Was there a certain reason why you were having rallies at State capitols?
A Yes. That's where the lawmakers meet. And we sought to seek a redress from our government, consistent with Black Lives Matter or Second Amendment supporters or whatever.
This happened a lot in the lockdown era. So this is just a ritual. You know, it's probably been, you know, 60, 70 years Americans have been meeting at State capitols and doing Capitol rotunda type protests.
And, you know, we only, fortunately, thank God, participated in peaceful and
