my best understanding is that Lot 8 is on the northeast side the Capital Grounds. So it is not the Capital Plaza, it is not the Capital Building, it is the northeast side the Capitol Grounds.
In many of my text messages I think I'm referring to as south. And so think that my attorneys have tried to provide clarification and correspondence, but I'm not—I think that happened, but—
Q But just to be clear, your plans on January 5th for the next day is that you were going to the Ellipse and then you were going to go to the Capitol Grounds. Those are the two events?
A I can't recall anything outside of those two permanent events.
Q Okay. Andon January 5th what were your expectations for the attendees? Where were they going to go on January 6th? Where did you think the participants—what events were they going to go to?
A You're ask—well, to be honest, I couldn't—you know, I want to speculate with you, but I'm being asked to recall about what I thought on January 5th, and that's 11 months ago. And, you know, out of an abundance of caution, I don't want to give you false testimony, so while I'd like to engage on speculating with you, the text messages probably provide more information than I could 11 months later.
Q So let's do that then. On the same page in your same text with Ms. Liz Willis, you say, "Trump is supposed to order us to the Capitol at the end of the speech, but we will see." So your expectation is you were going to go from the Ellipse and by "us," the attendees, to the Capitol, correct?
A The Lot 8 event followed the Ellipse event schedule-wise. And there is—I don't know what the perimeter was, in November it was something, in December it got wider, and then in January, you know, the D.C. authorities made it even wider. The only
