people, in a closer orbit of the President would surely be in the know. And shortly after that call, another official tweeted it.
So it was strange. It was obviously untrue. When I confronted her, then she said, "Oh, well, I just walked out after meeting with chairman—Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel."
And I don't like Ms. McDaniel. So I wouldn't follow that advice, even if the President told me what to do.
Q But in this text message, it appeared like you were alluding that you knew from directly from the White House that they liked the message Stop the Steal. So who in the White House was telling you that they liked the term "Stop the Steal," or were you just relying on a tweet?
A I don't—I don't recall.
Q You don't recall anyone from the White House calling you about Stop the Steal in November?
A No. I—what I recall is that there's RNC officials and people with the last name Trump tweeting #shopthesteal, and that the President's longtime advisor, Roger Stone, had come up with the term to kind of save an RNC delegate fight. So I just knew it could not be true. And I've got a good read on the President usually. And, you know, sometimes I'm wrong. But I've done a lot of commentary and analysis on his behavior sometimes, and that's why a lot of people followed me on Twitter.
Q So what is your view today on December 9th of 2021 of why certain speakers that you were advocating for didn't end up speaking at The Ellipse on January 6th?
A Considering all the press reporting that I've read?
Q Just tell us what your view is. Why did your speakers not speak on January 6th?
