Q Or her aide. Okay.
And do you know who Ms. Wren or her aide was receiving this request from?
A No, not specifically, no.
Q Did Ms. Wren escort you out of The Ellipse?
A She was part of—she was a part of—she was a part of the people who walked me and Alex Jones and whoever else we had with us out a special entrance, yeah, exit.
Q And when you left the special exit, where were you heading?
A Well, we needed to regroup. So we actually stopped for 5 minutes to regroup.
Q Where did you stop?
A We stopped right outside where we were let out at the fence. And then we—we—I think, some of Alex's cameramen met us, you know. So they had ran out the exit and ran around and met us, or something like that. And they were there to film us, and I'm actually very grateful that all of my actions were filmed so that my attention to nonviolence and to actually participate in deescalation was chronicled.
But we ended up stopping again at the Freedom Plaza type of area, and Alex gave an impromptu speech. And the goal of this was to have people, you know, what they call in media a B-roll shot, you know, walking behind him. And so—and I was using his security. So there I am, you know, stuck in the security bubble.
Q Just going back really quickly, do you know who Ms. Wren's aide was?
A I don't recall her name. She was a very nice person.
Q Okay. So it was a woman. That's what you recall?
A Yes.
Q Okay. And you said that Mr. Jones stopped and gave an impromptu
