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President, and I was the national security guy -- and in the middle. Because at that time Robert O'Brien, the National Security Advisor to the President, was what I affectionately called on his farewell tour. He was out and about. And so I, by default, if Matt Pottinger wasn't there, I was the national security adviser to both.
Q So you're aware of these discussions, or the staffs, that made providing different advice to their --
A I wasn't aware. I knew -- I mean, when you say "aware," I didn't know what was going on. But, I mean, it's -- you had to be a fool not to pick up on the fact that there was, you know, competing looks at it.
Q Yeah. Any specific recollection you have of any meeting, any discussion that you had with any of these individuals or anything more collective on that issue --
A No, not at all
Q -- with respect to the election?
A I didn't -- when this was going on, I was -- I'm a big believer in staying in your lane. And I was staying in my lane.
Mr. . Yeah. I know going to go through some of this with you. I'm sorry, , to interrupt your flow.
Mr. . That's fine.
Mr. . That's all. Thank you.
Mr. . ?
Mr. I got a couple questions, General.
My colleagues asked you some questions about whether you had conversations with Vice President Pence about his role in certification of the election and related matters.
A follow-up question to that is, were you ever present when Marc Short or Greg