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President, and I was the national security guy -- and in the middle. Because at that time Robert O'Brien, the National Security Advisor to the President, was what I affectionately called on his farewell tour. He was out and about. And so I, by default, if Matt Pottinger wasn't there, I was the national security adviser to both.

Q So you're aware of these discussions, or the staffs, that made providing different advice to their --

A I wasn't aware. I knew -- I mean, when you say "aware," I didn't know what was going on. But, I mean, it's -- you had to be a fool not to pick up on the fact that there was, you know, competing looks at it.

Q Yeah. Any specific recollection you have of any meeting, any discussion that you had with any of these individuals or anything more collective on that issue --

A No, not at all  

Q -- with respect to the election?

A I didn't -- when this was going on, I was -- I'm a big believer in staying in your lane. And I was staying in my lane.

Mr.  . Yeah. I know   going to go through some of this with you. I'm sorry,  , to interrupt your flow.

Mr.  . That's fine.

Mr.  . That's all. Thank you.

Mr.  .  ?

Mr.   I got a couple questions, General.

My colleagues asked you some questions about whether you had conversations with Vice President Pence about his role in certification of the election and related matters.

A follow-up question to that is, were you ever present when Marc Short or Greg