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YATES'S MINUTES.
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can exist by itself; and a dissolution of the Confederation, I confess, would produce contentions as well in the larger as in the smaller states. The principle of self-preservation induces me to seek for a government that will be stable and secure.

Mr. STRONG moved to refer the 7th resolve to the same committee.

Mr. WILSON. I do not approve of the motion for a committee. I also object to the mode of its appointment—a small committee is the best.

Mr. LANSING. I shall not oppose the appointment, but I expect no good from it.

Mr. MADISON. I have observed that committees only delay business; and if you appoint one from each state, we shall have in it the whole force of state prejudices. The great difficulty is to conquer former opinions. The motion of the gentleman from South Carolina can be as well decided here as in committee.

Mr. GERRY. The world at large expect something from us. If we do nothing, it appears to me we must have war and confusion; for the old Confederation would be at an end. Let us see if no concession can be made. Accommodation is absolutely necessary, and defects may be amended by a future convention.

The motion was then put to appoint a committee on the 8th resolve, and so much of the 7th as was not agreed to. Carried—9 states against 2.

And, by ballot, the following members were appointed:—

Massachusetts Mr. Gerry. Maryland Mr. Martin.
Connecticut Mr. Ellsworth. Virginia Mr. Mason.
New York Mr. Yates. North Carolina Mr. Davie.
New Jersey Mr. Patterson. South Carolina Mr. Rutledge.
Pennsylvania Mr. Franklin. Georgia Mr. Baldwin.
Delaware Mr. Bedford.

The Convention then adjourned to Thursday, the 5th of July.

Tuesday, July 3, 1787.

The grand committee met. Mr. Gerry was chosen chairman.

The committee proceeded to consider in what manner they should discharge the business with which they were intrusted. By the proceedings in the Convention, they were