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tion of something or some one, or part of a
ruin ? What does the name mean ?
Hauff was so circumstantial in all his statements that I have every reason to think he speaks here of an actual thing.
A. G.
"IT IS THE MASS THAT MATTERS." This
phrase was used by some judge in the course of a trial of a priest in the penal days. Who was the person implicated, and where was the trial held ? M. N.
WILLIAM EASBY OF FACEBY, NORTH YORKS. Can any of your readers kindly furnish particulars of the family and parent- age of the above ? He is said to have sold his lands in Stainton, Stainsby, Maltby, Thornaby, and Yarm to Conyers, before 1472, for 600 marks. Who was the Conyers referred to ? I may add that all the places mentioned are in North Yorks. It would be of interest also to know who now represents the William Easby in question.
C. W. TIDMAN.
West Hartlepool.
" MORGANATIC." May not the much- discussed word " morganatic " as applied to a marriage derive from the fata Morgana, thus meaning the mirage or semblance of a marriage ? In the accepted explanation why exactly should the gabe be omitted ? That alone seems to me to condemn it.
H. HAVELOCK.
Gravesend.
[Has the querist consulted the note on the wore in the 'N.E.D.'?]
FREEHOLDERS IN THE TIME or ELIZABETH Are there any records or lists from which one can ascertain who were freeholders in a particular district or county in the time of Elizabeth ? I do not require to know about copyholders. U. V. W.
RUDGE FAMILY. I am desirous of obtain ing the assistance of any of the readers o ' N. & Q.' in tracing the pedigree of Thoma Rudge of Gloucester, born 1720, attorney at-law 1773, Master in Chancery 1796, and Deputy Registrar of the Ecclesiastica Courts of Gloucester, who died 17 Jul\ 1809, aged 88, and whose will, date< 30 March, 1808, was proved 15 Aug., 180 (P.C.C. 651 Loveday).
Thomas Rudge married four times, should be glad to learn the surnames of Anne Susannah, and Mary, his first, second, an< fourth wives respectively. By his first wif he was father (with an elder son Jame
udge, attorney-at-law and Proctor of the
)iocese of Gloucester, who died 1786, aged
4) of the Ven. Archdeacon Thomas Rudge.
uthor of several standard works on the
istory, &c., of the county of Gloucester,
rho died 1825, aged 74.
The first-mentioned Thomas is believed o have been the son of Thomas Rudge of Sosbury Court, Hereford (dates of birth, larriage, and death required), by Martha is wife (surname also asked for), who sur- ived her husband, and died 1770, aged 93 rears and 2 months.
Thomas Rudge of . Bosbury Court is issumed to have been the son of Thomas
Rudge of (particulars of dates of birth,
narriage, and death also sought) by Mar- garet his wife (surname also requested),
ho died 24 Dec., 1731, aged 71.
This last Thomas is believed to have been he son of Edward Rudge, born 30 March, 1656 (query dates of marriage and death, and name of wife), second son of Edward iludge, Alderman of London, who died 13 Aug., 1701.
Communications direct are respectfully solicited. FRANCIS H. RELTON.
9, Broughton Road, Thornton Heath.
VESTMENTS AT WESTMINSTER ABBEY. [n the ' Life of Richard Challoner.' by James Barnard, 1784, is an account of the trial of James Webb, a Roman Catholic priest, on 25 June, 1768. Mr. Cox (also a Roman Catholic), counsel for the defendant, in sndeavouring to prove that the wearing of vestments did not necessarily imply a elebration of Mass, said : " Nay, in West- minster Abbey we have several old vest- ments, that, for^anything I know, may be the very same that were formerly used by the Roman Catholics " (p. 171).
It would appear that these vestments were publicly worn in the Abbey, and not stowed away in presses, otherwise Mr. Cox would scarcely have been aware of their existence. The Dean of Westminster pointed out in The Cornhill for June, 1904, that the use of copes in the early part of the seventeenth century was carefully ob- served in the Abbey ; and in the ' Sanctuary Kalendar' for 1905, edited by the Rev. P. Dearmer and Mr. F. C. Eeles, is an illus- tration of some copes at the Abbey, " seven- teenth century in date. They survived the neglect of the eighteenth century, and were used at the Jubilee of Queen Victoria."
Are these the " old vestments " alluded to by Mr. Cox ? E. E. SQUIRES.
Hertford.
