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NOTES AND QUERIES. [io«-s. iv. JULY i, 1905. field, or Cookefiek], then Cuxfield, and lastly Cuckfield. Following this, Mr. Johnson says :— "I find llie same variations in spelling the name of Sir Edward Coke ; he is often designated by con- temporary authors as Cook ; even Lady Hatton, his second wife, always spelt his name Cook, or Cooke ; and in Norfolk, his native country [sic], the pro- vincial pronunciation of the name is still more extraordinary, being more like Kuke than Coke." —Vol. i. p. 10. On the monument of Robert Coke, the father of the Lord Chief Justice, which is in St. Andrew's, Holborn, and which, according to Johnson, the son caused to be erected, the .name appears as Coke, so that it would thus seem that the name was spelt both ways— •Coke by Sir Edward himself, and Cook by his second wife. This being the case, who will decide which is the correct spelling more •than 350 years after the birth of the indi- vidual in question ? The monument of the lawyer at Tittleshall Jias Coke. CHAS. H. CUOUCH. I do not know whether I can throw any light on MR. JAGGARD'S query as to Cook and Coke. Cook seems undoubtedly to have been the name of my family, but the early spelling Coke, probably from the o being sounded as •double o. By documents still in our posses- sion it was latinized Cocus and Coquus, and in the French form Le Cu. In public docu- ments we find it Le Queux, Le Keu, proving sufficiently the derivation from the kitchen, by^ serjeantry or otherwise. In one rent roll (Ldward III., bet ween 1345 and 1360) the name becomes Le Coke, theEnglish form; in another deed (Henry IV.) it is Koke. From Elizabeth to George I. the name in the body of the deed is commonly Cook, •Cooke, &c., but the signature is always Coke, showing that the lawyers who drew up these documents spelt phonetically. Now, was the family to change the spelling of the name because in the course of centuries a vowel had hardened in sound ' What is the case in my own family is, I have no doubt, true of Lord Leicester's, and sufficiently explains the point that puzzles .your correspondent. If he is curious on the matter he might consult the three -volumes of correspondence, ' The Coke MSS. of Lord Cowper. Melbourne Hall,' published by the Historical MSS. Commission. ALFRED COKE. Brookhill Hall, Alfreton, Derbyshire. TURVILE (10"' S. iii. 367, 454).—The Henry Turvile born April, 1697, could hardly be "captain in the navy in Queen Anne's time," at whose death lie would be but seventeen. His uncle, another Henry Turvile. baptized 1 November, 1674, and living, aged seven, at Visit, of Leicestershire in 1682, would suit as to age, but he entered the Society of Jesus in 1693, becoming finally Professor of Theology, and died at Ghent 25 March, 1714, cet. 40. I mention this fact as his career is not generally known, and it removes him from being the captain that is sought for. G. E. C. WEIGHING-MACHINE WISDOM (10tb S. iii. 348).—Without, of course, being absolutely certain, I am inclined to think that the author of the couplet referred to has applied an old French proverbe rimt to his purpose, altering it as found necessary. Here ia the proverb as I have found it in one of my dictionaries of proverbs :— Qui bien se connait peu se prise ; Qui peu se prise, Dieu 1'avise. EDWARD LATHAM. WALL : MARTIN (10tu S. ii. 309; iii. 232).—! am much obliged to MR. REGINALD STEAVART BODDINGTON for his communication respect- ing the marriage of my great-grandfather Col. John Wall with Mary Brilliana Martin. I think I have good reason for answering MR. BODDINGTON'S question respecting the mother of Marv Brilliana Wall (formerly Martin) in the affirmative. MR. BODDINGTON, it may be remembered, traces Mary Brilliana Wall back through the families of Martin, Bray, and Popham to Brilliana, wife of Sir Robert Harley, who defended her husband's castle of Brampton Bryan, Herefordshire, during the Civil War (see Miss Festing's ' Unstoried in History,' p. 37). It is clear from the will of John Wall, M.D., who intro- duced the manufacture of Worcester china in 1751, that the first wife of his son, Col. John Wall, was named Mary Brilliana, her daughter being also christened'Mary Brilliana, and her eldest son Robert Martin Popham. Robert Martin, the father of Mary Brilliana Wall, was baptized at Pebworth, Gloucestershire, in 1727 ; and in the Bray Chapel at Fifield, Oxon, is to be found an inscription to the memory of Mary, the wife of Rooert Martin, who was buried at Fifield, 18 January, 1767. The Martins had long lived at Pebworth, as indeed mural paintings of the date of 1630 testify, but after 1742 there appears to be no mention in the Pebworth registers of any members of the Martin family. Can any correspondent suggest where they are likely to be round, and where the marriage sought for took place .' Marv Brilliana Wall seems to have died at Bristol in 1780; and in 1789