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ii s. ix. MAY 16, 1914.] NOTES AND QUERIES,


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"W. J." : MOBFIT : MILBOUBNE. Can any one supply me with any information about the following ?

1. Who was " W. J.," who wrote a poem in The Gentleman's Magazine for August, 1781, " Inscribed to the Honourable Charles Feilding, on his Eclogue to his brother, William Lord Viscount Feilding " ?

2. Where was John Morfit born men- tioned in The Gentleman's Magazine as a poet ? I think he died in Birmingham.

3. In ' The Moderate Cabal,' by Luke Milbourne (1649-1720), appears the line :

By Zijm and Gijm, by bats and owls defiled. What are the meanings of these two words ? and are they spelt correctly ? B. M.

" WATERS " AND LIEUT. WABNEFOBD. In my boyhood I was much interested in

  • Stories of a Detective ' (or Police Officer :

I forget the exact title), and though I recollect only a part of one of the stories, the illustration is plainly before my eyes. Is anything known of " Waters " a pseu- donym, I suppose ?

And who was Lieut. Warneford, author of ' Tales of the Coastguard ' ? I have never met with either of these books since. But I have a volume styled ' Kirke Webbe,' purporting to give the adventures of a privateer captain who, besides his English vessel, commanded also a French privateer, thereby plundering both countries. The title-page is gone, but I believe Warneford was the author. The scene is laid in the Channel Islands and Northern France in the year 1814.

I shall be grateful for information.

E. L. H. TEW.

Upham Rectory, Hants.

BENJAMIN ZOBELL. I shall be glad if any of your readers will kindly put me on the track of any facts respecting this German artist (b. 1762, d. 1831), who is described, inter alia, as " table-decker " to George III. I have found him a very elusive person, but some information about him no doubt must exist somewhere. J. A. M.

KILL FAMILY. I should be greatly obliged for further details relating to the following entry in Berry's ' Diet, of Arms,' particularly as to where this family was located, and the source from which "Berry extracted the item : " Kill (Kill, Scotland) Sable, three oval peels or."

H. W. K.


LESCELINE DE VERDON.

(11 S. viii. 371 ; ix. 130, 255, 330.)

I AM extremely obliged to MB. GODDABD H. OBPEN for his valuable communication at the last of the above references, and for all the trouble he has so kindly taken to give me the fullest information possible in reply to the several questions which I ventured to address to him.

In connexion with MB. OBPEN' s answers, I would beg leave to submit the following remarks :

MB. OBPEN does not think that Hugh de Lacy was of age before 1 196, and he is good enough to refer me to 'Ireland under the Normans.' I have, unfortunately, no oppor- tunity at the present moment of seeing a copy of this work, and therefore feel con- siderable diffidence in making the following observations on the point, as a perusal of the work named might throw a different light upon the subject.

According to MB. ST. CLAIB BADDELEY at

II S. viii. 171, col. 2, line 1, Hugh de Laci was " born c. 1167," whilst at the fifth line from the bottom of the same column he says he "was probably born before 1170. Whilst I do not know that gentleman's authority for the first date mentioned, the second would seem to be well supported by his statement that " Gilbert de Laci, Hugh's younger brother, was made Governor of Winchester Castle in 1191." Unless this was one of those nominal and honorary appointments which are occasionally met with, it follows that Gilbert must have been born not later than 1170, because if he had not been of age we should riot have found him as the actual Governor of so important a castle in 1191 ; and, as he was junior to Hugh, it would make MB. ST. CLAIR BADDELEY'S first date, namely, 1167, quite a feasible one for the year of Hugh's birth. This being so, Hugh in 1196 would have been c. 29 years of age.

As regards Lesceline de Verdon, I notice that your correspondent considers that she may have been born " in 1181, or a year or two later," which practically accords with my suggestion (ante, p. 255) that she may have been the second child, and born circa the year above mentioned.

MB. OBPEN asks where is the evidence that she was the youngest child. So far as I am aware there is none, and the probability is, as he suggests, that Burke merely put her