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152 NOTES AND QUERIES. [ 12 s. x. FEB. 25, 1 922.

of the church of Holy Trinity, Norwich, concerning the advowson of the church of Chalke.

Do the above references in the Latin to "Walchra" and "St. Mary Walchra" mean "Chalk"? If so, much light will be thrown on the relationship of various personages in feudal times.

Roger de Vilers is described as nepos suus to Eudes de Ryes, in a grant by the latter to the Abbey of St. Amand, Rouen.

Is not Hamon, brother to Roger de Vilers, identical with Hamon de St. Clair mentioned in the Colchester Cartulary?

Hamon and William de St. Clair were brothers; they and their father before them owned the property of Vilers (afterwards known as Vilers-Fossart) in the canton of St. Clair, near St. Lô, chief town St. Clair-sur-l'Elle. They also owned the barony of Thaon in Normandy, the chapel of which is still extant. The querist has moulages of the seals of Wm. de St. Clair, his son Geoffrey and grandson Thomas.

If Hamon de St. Clair was brother to j Roger de Vilers then he also was nepos Eudonis, which will explain his succession to Eudes de Ryes.

Roger de Vilers, I am inclined to think, may be identical with Roger nepos Huberti, who obtained a Crown grant of the manor of Chalk and was succeeded by his son Gervase de Cornhill, sheriff of Kent, Surrey, and London. See 31st Report of the Public Records, 1868-69, and the article 'Pedigree of Gervase de Cornhill,' pp. 304-12, in 'Geoffrey de Mandeville,' by J. Horace Round, where the grants of the manor of Chalk to Roger and Gervase respectively are cited as in Duchy of Lancaster Royal Charters Nos. 3 and 6; in respect of the latter see also Pipe Roll Society, 'Ancient Charters,' p. 66.

May St. Mary Walker mean St. Mary Walcher? Walcher fils Osbern, a nephew of Eudes de Ryes, was buried on the same day and in the same tomb as the celebrated Eudes. May Walcher be one of the brothers of the two St. Clairs mentioned in their charters as buried in the grounds of the monastery? Walcher was a son of Osbern fils Walter, tenant-in-chief of Bichelswade hundred in Bereforde in Bedford. Osborn fils Walcher, apparently his son, appears in the Colchester Cartulary as of Leiham, and there is notice of his sons. Osbern fils Walter was married to Muriel, sister of Eudes de Ryes, and there is an appearance of his son Walcher as early as 1086. The St. Clairs may have been sons of Muriel by a second marriage.

There are many notices in the Colchester Cartulary of persons of the family of Hamley (de Amblia, Normandy) in close connexion with the St. Clairs, one of whom is Eudes de Hamley and probably the same as Eudes nepos Huberti appearing therein. May this Eudes be brother to Roger nepos Huberti, grantee of Chalk?

I take the surname Lanvaley to be in reality "Langvale," dervied from the place in Kent held in 1087 by Adam fils Hubert, brother of Eudes de Ryes. For some unknown reason the family of that name is stated to come from Brittany and the name is generally spelt "Lanvallei." Fitz-Minstrelle Claristian.


Poem Wanted.—Two or three years ago there appeared in The Daily News a poem by "Gertrude S. Ford" supposed to be addressed by a wife to a husband. The Daily News people cannot trace the date of publication. Can any reader help? W. Forster.


Reference Wanted.—"The Count de Maistre said a century ago or more, 'History as it is written is one great conspiracy against the truth.'" In which book does the above appear? S. T.


Authors Wanted.—1. In the Echo de Paris of Feb. 11, 1922, there is a reference to "Les Etats-Unis qui avaient proclamé que 'tout homme a deux patries: la sienne et la France.'" Who was the author of this saying? I have seen it attributed to Benjamin Franklin, but also to Henri de Bornier, the French Academician who died in 1901. Usually the version is "Tout homme a deux patries: la sienne et puis la France." If the saying is Franklin's, what was the exact form of the English original? F. H. C.


2. Can any reader oblige me with the name of the author of the line:

"And morning brings its daylight and its woe."

A. T.




Replies.

WHITE OF SELBORNE: PORTRAIT
WANTED.

(12 S. x. 109.)

If Mr. W. Courthope Forman will send me his address, I shall be pleased to send him a photogravure copy, from my private plate, of a small pen-and-ink sketch, probably by an amateur friend, of Gilbert White of Selborne. The original sketch, in one of his books, is now in the British Museum. It is perfectly well known in his family, of