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NOTES AND QUERIES

2nd s. N" 14., APRIL 5. '56.]


NOTES AND QUERIES.


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Daundelyon: Petit (1 st S. i. 92.; v. 319. 404.) One of the earliest Queries in "N. & Q." still re- mains unanswered. It related the legend on the brassof John Daundelyon inMargate church, 1445. Lewis, in his History of the Isle of Tenet (edition 1723, p. 107.), states that this ancient family, " about the beginning of Edward IV., determined in a daughter and heir, matched to Petit of SLalmesford, near Chartham." In. a thin folio volume, ornamented on its covers with the arms of Petit, and entitled

" Honori Sacellum ; a Funeral Poem to the Memory of the honoured Clement Pettit, Esq., of the Isle of Thanet, in the County of Kent, by E. Settle ; London, printed for the Author, 1717;"

are the following lines and foot-note, at p. 7. :

" Pettit's a race, whose generous fount begun, From Britain's first great Normand's rising sun ;* Even that proud conqueror, in his Thanet isle, Th' unconquered Kent, saw their first Hymen smile. The long descent from such a native claim, Worthies enrolled in that long list of fame, Lodged in their mouldered monuments, so old, That they are scarce less dust than what they hold."

Elkanah Settle, the poet (called the City Lau- reate), seems to have made a strange mistake in the date of this marriage. What became of the large family of old Clement Petit ? E. D.

Ancient Origin of Phrases now in Common Use (2 nd S. i. 44.) To the phrases mentioned by W. T. M. I will add the common one, " to wear the breeches." This will be found in French as far back as 1450 :

"Et sachez qu'il est avenu a aucuns que 1'en leur fai- soit boire de mauves brouez affin de porter les braies on pour autres choses pires." Les Qttinze Joyes de Manage, La Dixiesme Joye. Edition Elzevirienne, Paris, 1853, p. 113.

It is met with in English at about the same date in a carol, the burden of which is founded on it:

" Nova, Nova, sawe you ever such, The most mayster of the hows weryth no brych."

Songs and Carols of the Fifteenth Century, Percy Soc. Pub., vol. xxiii. p. 65.

Also a little later :

" All women be suche, Thoughe the man wear the breche," &c.

The Boke of Maid Emhjn, Percy Soc. Pub., vol. vi., p. 21.

I believe the expression is not wholly disused in France. Is it used in any other nation than England and France ?

'Another expression, not uncommonly used in the provinces as descriptive of a person of some-

  • " An ancestor of this family married an heiress in the

reign of William the Conqueror, at Dentdolyon Castle, in the Isle of Thanet; whore, tho' the castle "itself is long decoyed, their aritient seat continues still."


what simple demeanour, " She looks as if butter would not melt in her mouth," or an allusion to it, is found in French, circa 1475 :

" A cette parolle mist dame Mehault ses mains a, ses costez et en grant couroux luy respondy que, &c., et que, Dieu merci, aincoires fondoit le burre en sa bouche, com- bien qu'elle ne peust croquier noisettes, car elle n'avoit que un seul dent." Lcs Evangiles des Quenouilles Vme Journce, Edition Elzevirienne, Paris, 1855, p. 72.

A. F. B. Diss.

Odd Titles of Books (I 8t S. xii. 403.) Has your correspondent G. B. ever seen a copy of Hooks and Eyes, Sfc. 9 If so, will he oblige the readers of " N. & Q-" with the author's name, and some brief account of the book ?

P. J. F. GANTILLON.

Village Signs (2 nd S. i. 190.) The following I remember reading many years ago on the sign of a little wayside inn, between Pateley Bridge and Ripon ; it seems equally odd and interesting as the one given by J. K. :

" The maltster doth crave His money to have,

The exciseman says, ' Have it I must.' By that you may see How the case stands with me,

So I pray you, don't ask me to trust."

H. E. WILKINSON.

Netting Hill Square.

Ring-taw, Sfc. (1 st S. xii. 344.) I can add one or two words to J. K.'s list, without being able to give the unde derivator of any which he men- tions :

Fat. The same as J. K.'s " chuck."

Muck. To be "mucked" is to have lost all one's

Mivvies marbles.

J. K.'s derivation of the word alley is no doubt somewhat correct, for stone marbles are called stoneys, and clay ones commoneys, though Dutch alleys are only stoneys enamelled or glazed dif- ferent colours.

Dubs, twos; trebs, threes, are evidently " rough and ready " arrangements from the Latin, and

Fobs, the English numeral contracted to har- monise with them.

Stash. To " stash " the game is to stop it or break it up, though not only applied to marbles, but iri all other cases where a request to desist is implied. R. W. HACKWOOD.

White Paper injurious to the Sight (2 ml S. i. 126. 241.) I think Mr. Babbage published some tables on tinted paper prior to 1833, about which year Sir John McNeil's Tables appeared ; and, if I mistake not, in the preface to that work, Mr. Babbage mentions experiments then recently made on the effects of different tints. Guo. E. FKEBE.