A. Beyond that my impression of her was of someone who, you know, was a very smart and ambitious lawyer, but not like a big political player in the Kremlin. Of course given to wonder given all the recent events and disclosures that I was unaware of whether my assessment of her was right or wrong. As we sit here today, the jury's kind of out. I honestly can tell you all I knew is she didn't seem to be a heavy hitter in the Kremlin world.
Q. This might be a little repetitive, but when did you first meet Ed Lieberman?
A. I don't remember specifically, but it was years ago.
Q. I believe you described his business. Have you ever worked with Mr. Lieberman?
A. I don't think so.
Q. Or Fusion more broadly?
A. Not that I can recall.
Q. Have you ever paid him or been paid by him?
A. No.
Q. And what exactly did you understand his role to be in the Prevezon issue?
A. Well, the initial issue that we worked on
