obligation.
Q. And were you a part of those conversations with — that Mr. Steele had with whoever his contact was at the FBI?
A. No.
Q. Do you have any knowledge of when that first conversation actually then took place?
A. Over the last several months that this has become a public controversy I've learned the general date and I believe it was if first week of July, but I don't believe he told me — if he told me the time, I don't remember when he told me.
Q. And that information about that time, that first week of July, where does that come from?
A. It comes from news accounts of these events and conversations between Chris and I and some of my — presumably my business partners too. Generally speaking, we have, as you know, not been eager to discuss any of this in public and there's been a lot of speculation and guessing and stories, many of which are wrong. So when an incorrect story comes out we would, you know, talk about it. So, you know, in the course of those kinds of things I generally obtained a sense of when things occurred that I might otherwise not be able to
