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really touched on this at all, but there were also environmental issues that were part of the research.

Q. With regard to the public financial statements, did you reach any conclusions based on that?

A. That they were not profitable entities. I don't specifically recall. I just remember that these were not doing very well and that he'd sunk a lot of money into them and he hadn't gotten a lot of money back yet.

MS. QUINT: You mentioned a couple of times, Mr. Simpson, that you had particular familiarity with Mr. Manafort and even that you were more familiar with him in particular than Chris Steele was. In general and it might not be easy to be general about it, but what was your focus when you had looked into Manafort? What main areas were you familiar with?

MR. SIMPSON: Over the years, originally at the Wall Street Journal we learned of his relationship with Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs. So it was generally continued in that vein. He was subject of some litigation over his business dealings in New York. There was a lawsuit filed by

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