but you're saying whatever information you had was not generated by Fusion GPS?
A. That's right. I know they're a big player and they have long, deep ties to Vladimir Putin. One of the founders, Pyotr Aven, P-Y-O-T-R, second word Aven, A-V-E-N, was an associate of Vladimir Putin when he was in the mayor's office in Saint Petersburg around the time same that Bill Browder was doing business with the mayor's office. They're very powerful politically and economically in Russia and they have — in the tens of billions are the assets of the founders and they have all sorts of interests. They have epic disputes with western corporations, including BP. So people in my business tend to just have a lot of institutional knowledge about them and, you know, I shared my institutional knowledge about them.
Q. You mentioned other founders. Are those other founders Mikhail Fridman and German Khan?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you have any information there have been reports about potential communications between a server at Alpha Bank and potentially servers that belong to the Trump organization or Trump — some entity associated with Donald Trump? Do you have
